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Post by northernfarmer on Jun 23, 2023 18:27:11 GMT -6
A couple of weeks ago I had gone to the local dump which has accepted empty chemical jugs for quite a few years now in a shelter shed they built for that purpose, I was told no longer will they be accepting any more containers ( although he let me dump the few I had ) and as of yesterday going there for a general garbage haul they had cleaned out all the containers and hauled them to another of the dumps within the same county so NO more chemical containers at this dump and come year end no chemical containers at any dump. I talked to one of the chemical retailers today and she said the same thing, the government seems to be the ones causing this change but what I don't know is if this is an Alberta thing or if its a Canada wide theme. So what the powers that be have told chemical retailers from my understanding is that THEY now have to accept and deal with the chemical containers and bag them up in large plastic bags from how the one retailer was doing and store them there until they are picked up. Of course these retailers won't have a proper place to store them and this all seems to have come down in the last weeks I believe. Have any of you heard anything about this happening in other provinces ?. All this talk about safety and the environment and then they do something like this to cause some to think of burning their containers.
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Post by meskie on Jun 23, 2023 18:43:33 GMT -6
It’s been a lot of years since we put our jugs in bags and took them to the retailer in Sask. Not that big of a deal. Retailer just stacks them in a corner of the yard and the truck comes by every so often to pick them up. The farmers have to put them In the bags or everybody does that I know of. Retailers give you the bags to use.
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Post by garyfunk on Jun 23, 2023 18:53:52 GMT -6
Been bagging them up and taking them to our retailer for at least fifteen years. They keep them in a compound with the empty drums and totes. Sounds like Alberta needs to get with the times.
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Post by northernfarmer on Jun 23, 2023 19:10:08 GMT -6
Interesting, that has never been the way local retailers have dealt with containers, the only ones they would accept back are those totes or barrels that have a refund on when returned. Years back farmers were forced to burn them because nobody accepted them so seemed fantastic when the dumps set up places to bring them there as both the containers and the boxes could be disposed of and not risk burning down the countryside by burning them. I would guess Alberta is then adopting what Sask is doing but the timing is a real piss off and my county is really being an idiot over it by turning people away who have the containers in their truck or trailer pulling into the dump and I just looked at their website and they still specifically say the dump in question takes chemical containers so that has not been updated.
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Post by northernfarmer on Jun 23, 2023 19:17:59 GMT -6
Been bagging them up and taking them to our retailer for at least fifteen years. They keep them in a compound with the empty drums and totes. Sounds like Alberta needs to get with the times. I don't know if I would put it that way, its still the same company as far as I know that goes around collecting them but instead of them being at the dump which in some cases is more handy for some farmers ( but not for all ), now that is no longer an option. The problem is with some of the retailers is that they have not had a chance to create a proper spot for them to be stored and this all came about in the middle of general crop spraying rather than have a plan that let farmers and retailers know well before the season as to what to expect. Never mind how pathetic my county is handling the situation with it, no surprise there with the knowledgeable people they let go and hire dingbats in their place that are clueless.
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Post by garyfunk on Jun 23, 2023 19:19:19 GMT -6
I agree. Poor timing.
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Post by Oatking on Jun 23, 2023 20:30:12 GMT -6
I was thinking how long before plastic chemical jugs would be not allowed at the nuisance grounds! I don’t care if they do , I’ll just burn them , but that defeats the purpose of recycling the plastic ! So far we can still drop them off for free. |
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Post by kevlar on Jun 23, 2023 20:40:13 GMT -6
As far as I know we can still take them to the dump, I’m doing yard cleanup next week so maybe I’ll find out if it’s changed. We don’t have to bag them, just have a big fenced area to dump them, just have to remove the labels and caps. But now I can’t remember if they take the non refundable drums 🤔, might have to take them to the dealer.
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Post by Beerwiser on Jun 24, 2023 8:09:02 GMT -6
Neighbor took his into the dump a couple of weeks ago, they want them bagged now. On the plus side no removing labels and caps. That always drove me nuts having to remove everything.
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Post by northernfarmer on Jun 24, 2023 8:35:50 GMT -6
I get the feeling that our county has not been handling things properly in conveying any instructions as per what they wanted the containers condition to be in when dumped off as the person running the dump claimed that the outfit that had come to crush and haul the containers last year were complaining about lids being on and the paper instructions still on containers. Zero instructions are on the county's website nor at the disposal area so the jugs are thrown there with papers attached and the lids on of course just as one pulls them out of the cardboard case they come in. I assume after this year fades out there might be some better clarity although I won't hold my breath on this county passing along proper instruction since it appears for now that they plan on ridding themselves of collecting them.
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Post by meskie on Jun 24, 2023 8:36:59 GMT -6
The labels they want gone cause they are paper instead of plastic. The kids they want off so the jugs don’t pop when they go through the crusher. I’m guessing 99% of jugs around here are smashed in a Chem handler so the bottoms are cut open. I’ve never taken a lid or label off ours to put in a bag for recycling.
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Post by generalchaos on Jun 24, 2023 9:31:03 GMT -6
Our landfill still takes jugs, same as in Kevlar’s case, in a fenced off area. We have never had to take caps or labels off.
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Post by Oatking on Jun 24, 2023 11:01:14 GMT -6
Interesting topic because never put any thought into worry about what to do with used jugs. I heard the feds want to regulate pesticides even more in the future so wouldn’t be surprised this becomes a pain in the butt.
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Post by Beerwiser on Jun 24, 2023 20:02:06 GMT -6
I will have to find the article Oatking. Health Canada wants to stick their nose in pesticides even further. Definitely not a good thing, although my old 16' cultivator sitting in the bush might be worth gold🤔😂.
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Post by kevlar on Jun 24, 2023 22:13:42 GMT -6
For you guys that have to bag them, how many bags do you have to use??😲 Hoe many jugs can you get into a bag? We aren’t a big farm and must get half a tandem truck full every spring.
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