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Post by Oatking on Dec 7, 2022 17:22:23 GMT -6
I was in the pre planning stage to build a 60 by 200 hay shelter for cold storage of equipment. I wondered about the disadvantages building it this way as opposed to a pole shed. I want to keep price down but maximize shed space. Rafter size may reduce my plans if one size is more feasible to manufacture. I intend to put siding on three sides. I was looking at 18 foot walls.
I have a couple of stud frame sheds I can heat so I was not intending to do much work inside this shop.
Could someone list some companies who build these type of buildings?
I was planning on having one side open for now and putting a overhead door on the back side.
What are some other ideas how to build a good machine shed for storage. I wondered about canvas buildings and has any farmers here have an opinion on them or have one themselves?
Does anyone know the current price per square feet for a shed like I listed.
thanks for any advice
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Post by slipclutch on Dec 7, 2022 18:20:11 GMT -6
I priced out 80x120 hay shelter to park equipment from Olympic 215000$ I shit my self! I might as well put the 215k in a big shop 120x120. Overkill I know but who cares! At lease I have something. Hay shelter is just a shelter.
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Post by kevlar on Dec 7, 2022 18:27:14 GMT -6
Would insurance be an issue with a shelter like that?
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Dec 7, 2022 18:41:50 GMT -6
If one side is open why would you need a door?
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Post by cropgrower on Dec 7, 2022 19:19:54 GMT -6
Birds make a terrible mess on equipment in open sheds
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Post by SWMan on Dec 7, 2022 20:24:15 GMT -6
Not sure the three sided thing would be good if it's exposed at all to wind, would have to be pointed toward a very sheltered yard. Maybe a hoop building would make sense, someone should check with Winkler canvas.
I had thought lumber came down recently so I had a shop quoted last week and for a 80Wx72Lx20H pole building with three doors in the front insulated and lined with no floor and no electric was 246K! I think they are busy busy and don't expect any rollback in pricing. I just wanted something I could put the drill inside and work on or a combine, but I guess will just do it in the great outdoors on nice days...ha ha
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Post by joru on Dec 8, 2022 7:03:44 GMT -6
I asked for a hoop building last year and it depends on size, but a 80 x 200 was around 30-40 % more compared to a pole shed.
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Post by kevlar on Dec 8, 2022 8:21:19 GMT -6
MORE than a pole shed?😳
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Post by kenmb on Dec 8, 2022 9:51:53 GMT -6
I will be looking into this come the new year. Looking to do something like a 50 x 100 cold storage, dirt floor building. Have an old pig barn to tear down yet that I didn't get around to doing with winter landing fast and hard. Storage building would go in that spot.
While an open ended building would work ok for my plans I do think I would want it enclosed just to keep birds out and limit likelihood of a severe wind getting a hold of it. Lots of trees for shelter so will look into a good canvas building. Kijiji has a supplier giving a price of around $34k for that size so will follow up with them next month find out what a guy gets for that. Need some kind of base to mount a canvas building on so that factors in, plus some proper door openings and not the 18 x 17 that they give as standard. I sure ain't paying +$150k for storage though. There are cheap and good canvas buildings. Pretty sure it was Winkler Canvas that had a display set up a few years ago at the farm show in Regina and looked fine to me. I wouldn't put one in the open Prairie but a sheltered yard with a 15 year use period (be retired by then and no succession) would make canvas work. Might need to go a little smaller to stay at a certain price point so will see. BIL has a cheap 30x80 canvas building in sheltered spot for about 15 years now and it is still doings its job. Quite a few canvas buildings built at pipeline compressor stations last decade or so to house their +5000hp compressor line ups.
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Post by MBRfarms on Dec 8, 2022 9:57:30 GMT -6
Canvas hoop shelters are just fine for cold storage and cheaper. Put up a 42x80 last year with one end wall for bale storage for about $25k with site prep, 40x80 pole shed material package was $45k at the time. Pretty sure I saw quotes in the $60-70k range for a 70x150 when I asked out of curiosity for a machine shed or shop. Probably has gone up some in the last year but can't see it being more money than a pole shed. I bought mine from Silver Stream Shelters in Altona, Winkler canvas probably makes a better building but they were 10-15% higher at the time.
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Post by cptusa on Dec 8, 2022 10:35:52 GMT -6
Every time I've looked into a hoop building it was close enough to the cost of a pole barn to make it not work. Here they also have a tendency to self destruct in wind events so it would have to be pretty cheap for me to go that route.
Lot of local dealers here have three sided sheds they'll stick guy's equipment in that's there to get worked on or inspected. My combine is sitting in one now, I'm not exactly extremely excited about it but it definitely is out of the elements and I'm just really picky.
It makes sense for that scenario when things are constantly in and out in no particular order so accessibility is pretty high.
I'm not sure you'll save enough only doing three sides. Roof and rafters is where mist the money goes, a side of tin is relatively minor in scope. If it were me, I'd spend the extra and close it all in and put in some extra doors if needed. But I also get a lot of bird pressure from livestock around here so that may not be as big of an issue for you. The shed will be there the rest of your life so do it right. It's easy to say when it's not my mobey too.
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Post by carlos on Dec 8, 2022 12:53:35 GMT -6
Was going to build a coverall building years ago until I saw the neighbors fabric all ripped and blowing from a hail storm. My opinion is, if your gonna spend money, spend it on something that will last 20+ years or more. Ended up building a 60x120 pole shed from Warman home center. Probably double the cost now from when I built mine.
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Post by victory on Dec 8, 2022 21:21:30 GMT -6
I hear stories from too many guys that built a tarp shelter and regret not building a pole shed or solid building right away. End up doing it twice because of a wrong decision the first time round.
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Post by MBRfarms on Dec 8, 2022 23:56:07 GMT -6
Not gonna argue that a pole shed isn't better than a hoop shelter, but I'm also not convinced hoop shelters are as horrible as some people make them out to be. A neighboring dairy has had 600+ head under a massive one attached to their milking parlor for close to 25yrs now without issue. A couple big construction companies have had them for storing supplies for almost 10yrs now without issue. Dad had 2 small ones to raise hogs in back in the day and when we tore them down years after he quit they were still fine. I think the cheap off shore ones all the auction companies seem to sell for dirt cheap are where you'd see some issues. Helped a friend put one of those up this fall for his dad and there was a major difference between it and our Silver Stream one and they were similar size.
Just checked their current price list and a 65x200 would be around $100k with 2 end walls. Not saying it's your best option, but I wouldn't be scared to put one up especially if guys are being quoted $200k+ for an equivalent pole shed. Could probably make it 300ft long and still be money ahead.
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Post by SWMan on Dec 9, 2022 0:15:56 GMT -6
A few years ago at Wisconsin Dells there was a very large hoop building(Winkler Canvas) with a lot of expensive equipment in it. I gather that you want to keep them tight, which is asking a lot for some people possibly including myself. If treated right I think they can last a long time, but they must be cheaper initially I agree.
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