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Post by skfarmboy on Aug 21, 2024 11:33:20 GMT -6
Claas guy says around 2016 to 2017 that auto stop feature came out. Think I solved the auto reel speed, there was a pin pushed back in the connector of reel speed sensor cable that plugs into the header multicoupler. Sometimes the menu allowed the function to be active, sometimes not. Didn't know if it was how I was operating it, or the combine sensing or what. Hopefully last bug worked out.
Friend had a couple of 2016 760TT and they had the auto stop.
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Post by SWMan on Aug 21, 2024 22:35:00 GMT -6
2015 780's had it and then all models in 2016.
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Post by meskie on Aug 21, 2024 22:47:35 GMT -6
2015 780's had it and then all models in 2016. 670s not till 2017 I believe. |
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Post by kenmb on Aug 22, 2024 7:08:03 GMT -6
So with no auto stop, is there something I should do with belt tensions to maybe have the aps plug first if anything? I got a spare aps and impeller belt but seems preference would be to plug aps first if anything. I noticed that all the tip to tip tensioner gauges on combine are half way to overlap, not actually tip to tip. Didn't change them as perhaps someone already determined a little over tight is better.
When I plugged the cyclinder there really was no warning. A low spot with some damper or maybe greener stemmed peas, nothing of concern and sure shouldn't have plugged, but that's how peas go. 380 rpm, 19mm concave. Maybe 60% engine load. No indication of engine pulling down, or slowing cyclinder (ie belt slip on claas), everything fine one second, then plugged. With the 2388 I can avoid 90% of plugs by switching off feederhouse when I notice machine labouring, thinking I may not have that kind of feel/feedback now. Maybe more seat time will help but gut says no. Maybe set the aps and cylinder belt slip warning really sensitive, like 1% to give more feedback through the day of where to be cautious.
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Post by meskie on Aug 22, 2024 7:17:42 GMT -6
Those tensioners aren’t all tip to tip. Some are some are overlap on the flat. More seat time will help you avoid plugs. But with slow cylinder speed it will just plug up. Slip alarms will drive you crazy if you have it set for 1%. And after a while your just gonna push escape without reading what the alarm actually was.
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Post by kenmb on Aug 23, 2024 6:59:05 GMT -6
By 2015 pretty much all are tip to tip, think there is one on the fan the manual says to set up as overlap for initial tension. The indicators are nice, but when it has 7 dealer service stickers and the tensioners aren't set per the manual it leaves a guy wondering.
Some day I will get a chance to play around. So far it has all been wet ground and/or wet pea straw so all attention is spent getting peas into machine, no pissing around with do-dads and efficiency improvers. It's nice cemos tells me I am not utilizing the machine to its full capacity, yeah I figure that is true when stopped watching peas thrown back in front header.
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Post by meskie on Aug 23, 2024 8:05:24 GMT -6
I don’t really pay attention to the indicators anymore. It’s generally so the springs have a bit of space between the coils.
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Post by kenmb on Aug 24, 2024 7:27:36 GMT -6
I suppose that is their purpose. A quick indication of coil bind or show if someone forgot to tighten a tensioner, a 1/2" difference in spring length probably doesn't matter much.
For the 10 hour greasing of thresher variable speed pulley, those 3 zerks i figure 2-3 pumps each. I assume they all grease the same point so maybe thats too much? Be a while yet before I need to think about the 100 hr ones.
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Post by meskie on Aug 24, 2024 8:14:44 GMT -6
We always gave those zerks 5-10 shots each. They said you only need to grease one but we always did all 3.
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Post by SWMan on Aug 24, 2024 21:48:12 GMT -6
On the variable speed each pair is supposed to go to the same two places. I only grease whatever pair is easiest and do them all at start of the season. 5 shots or so each.
In the peas anyone who runs a Lexion anywhere close to power limit is either operating in a parallel universe or running the cylinder way too fast. I rarely get above 60-70%. I do wonder if the APS/cylinder/impeller were gear driven how much stuff you could cram in there, but it would likely have to be built way heavier to handle that.
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Post by meskie on Aug 24, 2024 22:39:43 GMT -6
First year we had our 780 i was running it power limit in peas with a 35’ header. Only time we did that.
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Post by kenmb on Aug 25, 2024 8:08:52 GMT -6
Was looking yesterday and saw there is two zerks per location, didn't look close enough before.
A few days back I was doing Amarillo peas and they were noticeably tougher to put through than the chrome. Still have more of each to do so will see how the Amarillos weather as they were not nearly as flat as the chrome at the time.
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Post by kenmb on Aug 29, 2024 7:18:24 GMT -6
More education. Plugged cylinder twice more. First time open concave from 21 to 50 and cleared out. Second one at 9pm I could not get rock trap open, I should have tried lowering header to see if that changed things but feeder house didn't seem overly full and reversed easily so maybe doesn't matter. Anyway, loosen cylinder and aps belt, cleared combine out then tightened cylinder belt and started up ok so then retighten aps and all good. Running around 350 rpm no load, like to go slower but cylinder is plugging where I don't think it should. I didn't mind loosening belt method, going to pick up a Wera Joker ratcheting type of adjustable wrench and that should make loosening those springs much easier.
And I learnt that it matters that the shop installs the rear chopper panel so it fits under that bar with the push operated switch to say chopper plugged. When door installed so it lays on back side of that bar your warning of plugged chopper is rotor belt slip and then the green material finally has enough pressure to trigger that bar sensor instead of the panel. 2.5 hours of cleaning that out and get going. Pulled panel off in field to get access. Nice my sister was driving truck as that is a 2 person job. Then reinstalled same way again and did it a second time the next day but this time just pea straw and stopped when rotor belt slip came on so 30 minute clean out and was drizzling a bit so end of day. Panel bent pretty good so go home take off straighten, angle iron braces to keep straight, reinstall and then figure out how it is supposed to all work. Another bug worked out.
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Post by SWMan on Aug 29, 2024 23:39:48 GMT -6
Do you have turbo-chop Ken? If so some sharp chopper blades should eliminate chopper plugging. That panel will go on with one person but you really need to commit to it...ha ha Running 15MM on concave and 300 cylinder here for seed production peas and only had one plug that lowering to 50MM didn't fix, and I just fished some out the left side access door from under cylinder and snugged the belts a few turns and it went through. I was eating supper and on the phone when that happened.  |
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Post by kenmb on Aug 30, 2024 8:48:39 GMT -6
Yes, turbo chop. Geez that seems like a big job for one guy to lift up and then get a punch in to a hole and get positioned. Chopper blades will get flipped after peas are done is my plan. Seems to me the panel in wrong was the cause of the problem, but perhaps bridging the first time was the issue. Second time it was absolutely the panel that gave way and folded back that allowed material to pile up at back of chopper and then led to bridging. That upper bar with sensor is supposed to stop panel from moving back further and bending panel as well as twisting the shaft that has the 2 foot handle on it. When panel is in wrong lots of bad stuff happens.
Took a load of peas off combine and to elevator and they put it at 2% splits at 12.3% moisture. I don't mind that. I suspect 1% of that 2% come from moving through combine and unload auger into truck. Peas I took out of bin and to elevator were 4 to 6% splits so I have some issues there with handling.
The Amarillo are definitely tougher to put through than the Chrome. Didn't plug in the Chromes yet, still have another 160 ac of those, the Amarillos are giving me the problems. Plugging will probably all come down to poor operator judgement in hindsight. Or perhaps I will find later on the cylinder drive belt is worn or glazed / hardened.
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