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Post by cptusa on Aug 19, 2020 7:31:05 GMT -6
Your cart and tractor don't match the combine anymore... do they make a Claas green colored cart, and you'll have to get a Xerion.
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Post by SWMan on Aug 19, 2020 21:58:29 GMT -6
Your cart and tractor don't match the combine anymore... do they make a Claas green colored cart, and you'll have to get a Xerion. Yes, the Xerion sales guy is well aware of this...lol I think if I ever traded carts again I would get the generic gray color that Elmer's has now, although with the price of carts and tractors I have zero issues with not matching.  I pushed the combine today a bit, had it at 6.5mph in the peas you see in the picture with a 40' head, basically power limit before I got a slip warning and it kicked off the feeder, After that ran at a comfy 5mph quite easily, this combine is an absolute beast! |
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Post by Bigtalk on Aug 20, 2020 2:18:55 GMT -6
Aww! You got it all dirty!  Nice machine! What a beast! |
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Post by radar on Aug 22, 2020 8:42:28 GMT -6
Nice pic....that should around750 bushels of Oats !!!
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Post by SWMan on Aug 29, 2020 22:31:48 GMT -6
Okay we have done 820 acres of peas so far in about 12 days, several days of cloudy humid weather where we didn't turn a wheel(peas are that way). Did a few acres of wheat this evening but it's not quite ready yet.
The machine is not perfect, there has been a few issues.
>First one is the impeller belt snapped about halfway through, apparently I'm not the only one because the belt supply is drained. Good thing my neighbor had bought a spare and let me have it! I was told to loosen the belt tensioner because it won't slip at the factory setting and breaks the belt. I think it's undersized for the weight of that big impeller. Everything is magnified when running 180RPM on the cylinder though, should be fine in wheat.
>Next the thing started two fires in the field. Both different spots in relation to the combine tracks, so wondering if it is a rock sparking through the chopper or something. They just were smoldering and cart guy stomped them out. I know the peas are especially dusty this year, but I have not seen this before. Is this common in peas?
>APS grates are much harder to change on the new model, very long reach into there and I have long arms. Must be something re-configured with the front axle and the self-cleaning stone trap that did it.
Some positive things too.
>The drives are better, although it seemed that I couldn't push it as hard as the very first day without belts slipping at those low speeds and triggering the feeder brake. It was partly conditions too, because when it got really dry out I did dial it up pretty good.
>Everything about the hopper and unload is really nice except that extra vertical auger knocks the odd pea seed onto the roof.
>DEF tank is bigger and it burns less than my 780 did. Couldn't get 2 days out of the 780, but this one probably will go 3 or more days I'm guessing.
>Side wipers are a lifesaver in peas.
>Belt feeder is not a limiting factor so far at all, and very quiet.
>Higher top speed in the field and on road.
>They still have stupid warnings like maintenance required that pop up and over-ride the backup camera when you start it and are backing out of the shed. Totally dumb, backup camera should be top priority!
I'm sure there is more, but that's all I can think off the top of my head. I like the new display better but the actual rotary dial controls were faster to change settings. Dust fan has kept the chaff pile off the feeder house thus far.
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Post by SWMan on Sept 2, 2020 22:56:40 GMT -6
Did a little bit of Redberry wheat today, never grown this variety before. Slightly tough grain, straw not cured, and intermittent showers...not ideal conditions at all I know. Running from 80-100% power level and doing about 16-1700 bu/hr. Still getting used to the settings and need to do some pan testing, but it seems that the new rotor grates are much more efficient at letting grain out and also chaff. To keep sieve loss down I was actually running as much as 60% of the rotor grates closed. This would be unheard of for me in the 780, almost always ran with all open and I had an extra grate in the 780 compared to this 8700. Straw chop is excellent but I don't see this thing spreading much past 40'. Hopefully get in some better conditions and some higher throughputs, but for now it is working fine and we are staying caught up. Edit to add that I am getting right at 500 bushels of wheat on a full hopper without the unloading on the go.  |
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Post by rf928 on Sept 3, 2020 8:06:06 GMT -6
Did a little bit of Redberry wheat today, never grown this variety before. Slightly tough grain, straw not cured, and intermittent showers...not ideal conditions at all I know. Running from 80-100% power level and doing about 16-1700 bu/hr. Still getting used to the settings and need to do some pan testing, but it seems that the new rotor grates are much more efficient at letting grain out and also chaff. To keep sieve loss down I was actually running as much as 60% of the rotor grates closed. This would be unheard of for me in the 780, almost always ran with all open and I had an extra grate in the 780 compared to this 8700. Straw chop is excellent but I don't see this thing spreading much past 40'. Hopefully get in some better conditions and some higher throughputs, but for now it is working fine and we are staying caught up. Edit to add that I am getting right at 500 bushels of wheat on a full hopper without the unloading on the go. View AttachmentWhere do you feel it stands compared to you 780 for overall capacity? Those numbers sound very similar to my 760 where I am limited by power before anything else to maintain even 1500bu/hr in cereals with uncured straw. |
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Post by SWMan on Sept 3, 2020 16:51:37 GMT -6
Did a little bit of Redberry wheat today, never grown this variety before. Slightly tough grain, straw not cured, and intermittent showers...not ideal conditions at all I know. Running from 80-100% power level and doing about 16-1700 bu/hr. Still getting used to the settings and need to do some pan testing, but it seems that the new rotor grates are much more efficient at letting grain out and also chaff. To keep sieve loss down I was actually running as much as 60% of the rotor grates closed. This would be unheard of for me in the 780, almost always ran with all open and I had an extra grate in the 780 compared to this 8700. Straw chop is excellent but I don't see this thing spreading much past 40'. Hopefully get in some better conditions and some higher throughputs, but for now it is working fine and we are staying caught up. Edit to add that I am getting right at 500 bushels of wheat on a full hopper without the unloading on the go. Where do you feel it stands compared to you 780 for overall capacity? Those numbers sound very similar to my 760 where I am limited by power before anything else to maintain even 1500bu/hr in cereals with uncured straw. I'd like to reserve judgement on that until I do some more cereals. Initial thoughts are in cereals where I was often limited by rotor loss this machine should have more capacity. In dry conditions where sieve is limiting factor it should be basically the same. In tough green crops where power limit is the determining factor it actually specs a bit smaller than a 780, but one visit from a tuner and I should have a 8800 basically if not bigger. There will be a difference in productivity from having a larger hopper and faster unload too. I do think that this combine collects less chaff on it and is easier to blow off than a 700 series. |
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Post by rf928 on Sept 4, 2020 20:58:22 GMT -6
Good to hear it’s easier to blow off, I found ours significantly cleaner than the STS was but less itch the better!
Thank you for sharing your review with us, I know I always watch with great interest. Good luck as it goes on!
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Post by SWMan on Sept 6, 2020 3:50:46 GMT -6
Just put in the first big day, 225 acres of wheat. Started around 1PM and finished at 4AM, a few minor issues that got me out of the cab and unhooked the header once(apparently kochia seeds/leaves laying in front of the feeder chain will prevent crop flow entirely...). Typical Claas day, sped up after dark. Had a challenge with Redberry, that variety appears somewhat hard to thresh. Slowed me down a bit but once I got into Brandon the combine was easier to get a bit more productivity out of. The Redberry did tie Brandon for weight in my trial, while being 1.8% drier. The slow harvesting issue might keep it from being my new favorite variety though... Did I mention they made the APS grates way harder to change? Probably a by-product of the easy-dump stone trap, requires reaching way in to get at the grates. I'm tall and I found it difficult, one can only imagine what it would be like with a bit of frozen corn in there. Oh yeah, prep pans are hidden behind that rock trap stuff as well. Turned cemos on today for a few passes, infinitely worse sample for unthreshed heads and decided to drive 1.5mph for almost an entire pass while the neighbors were parked on the road watching. I got a call wondering if I needed some help from their 9230 Case's.....stupid cemos automatic!  |
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Post by SWMan on Sept 6, 2020 9:23:52 GMT -6
I will add that I put pretty much exactly 1000 liters in the tank to refill after that 225 acres of pretty tough cutting, fuel was still at 12% at the end of the day. Just re-filled the DEF tank also and that had done 685 acres of work. I don't know how big the DEF tank is, but it was down to 15%. Nice that the DEF lasts several days now, the 780 wouldn't make 2 big days like yesterday because of a smaller tank mostly.
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Post by cptusa on Sept 6, 2020 9:29:04 GMT -6
How does fuel compare with the old one? Seems like a lot of consumption but that's a good chunk of acres especially if it was tough.
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Post by SWMan on Sept 6, 2020 11:43:35 GMT -6
I think it will be pretty similar. 15 hour day doing green straw wheat without needing fuel seems pretty good to me. Neighbors doing oats were taking fuel to the Deere's before midnight...lol
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Post by jaymo on Sept 6, 2020 14:08:07 GMT -6
Dust fan has kept the chaff pile off the feeder house thus far. I'm pretty ignorant on Lexion combines so what the heck is a "dust fan" for the feeder house?? |
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Post by SWMan on Sept 6, 2020 20:57:13 GMT -6
Dust fan has kept the chaff pile off the feeder house thus far. I'm pretty ignorant on Lexion combines so what the heck is a "dust fan" for the feeder house?? Fair question. Combines with a cylinder generally produce more dust than rotary machines at the front of the feeder house due to lack of vacuum from the rotors. Therefor there is usually a pile of chaff accumulated on the feeder house, which when fully raised can break the $700 "Claas panel" on bottom of the cab. This is the fix, so far so good. |
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