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Post by garyfunk on Sept 14, 2023 19:05:58 GMT -6
New variety, BY6214TF, short with lotsa pods and easy to swath/combine. Running pretty well too, š. I think you mean itās running terrible like low 20s like oursā¦ā¦ if any traders are reading this Sheesh, I thought low 20s was good!š¤£ |
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Post by Oatking on Sept 15, 2023 7:00:46 GMT -6
Hey Oatking, I thought you would be putting an order in for an X9.Ā  Ā They sound like a pretty impressive machine. Only if I lost my āFrench connectionā guys! They are great workers , except for the Elmerās grain cart vs Loadline trailer duel!!! I know a few guys who lost workers and were forced to buy the x9 Instead of running two or three combines. My wife and daughters are not farm girls so I might have to get an x9 at some point. Deere is at 6.5 % interest now ! Ask me how I know !!!! I traded my two day old 6175m for the r series model tractor ! On the m series you canāt properly activate the remote and raise the engine rpm from the fender . The r series absolutely rocks! I figure this tractor will last me till I retire ! It set me back quite a bit so no x 9 this year ! He he he ! encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQacSLvyKsZH0EDeSgBYT5VMl_UBfdxcdM5FA&sThis will be the factor that makes me buy an x9!!!! |
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Post by kenmb on Sept 15, 2023 8:02:36 GMT -6
I would be interested in hearing what you guys think of the Claas 670 walker machine vs the rotary units. If I remember right, both Meskie and Gary have each. I understand the 670 is the wide body unit but with walkers instead of dual rotors. A 740/750 would fit my needs better however there seems to be a fair number of 670 available so would be good to know more. I don't need the straw and I beleive that for mustard and flax a rotor unit would be better but curious to know how the 670 works in the small grain. I see they have a rotor above the walkers which would seem to be a better idea than the straw fluffer design of the Claas units we had in days gone by. But we did have number of problems plugging the back end up in kochia starting with chopper bridging. Plug the 2388 rotor often enough in kochia too but I much prefer barring a rotor back then climbing into a walker compartment to clean that out.
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Post by meskie on Sept 15, 2023 8:43:13 GMT -6
We run a 670tt along side a 780tt. There is surprising as much difference in the machines as you would think. 780 is 15% more capacity during the day and a bit more at night or when itās tough. We run close to the same speed but the 780 has a 40ā compared to the 670 35ā. Mostly a horsepower problem when itās tougher that might get fixed somewhat for next year. 670 is struggling a bit with walker loss in canola this year so the 780 is 25% or better capacity in it. Dad is running the 780 and I have been mostly driving the 670. If we switched Iād likely push the 780 more
670 is averaging just under 15 acres/hour so far this year. Havenāt looked at the 780 but in years past it has been in the 17-20 depending on conditions. Runs 21-23 while going down the field.
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Post by kenmb on Sept 16, 2023 7:55:34 GMT -6
Thanks Meskie, not much talk of the 670 model so any comments are appreciated. I wouldn't be looking at capacity as an important metric, if a different machine can get 25% more capacity than the 2388 then that is good enough - whether it can likely do 40% more under certain conditions isn't a factor for me. I would be more interested in if one machine design is easier to set or if the twin rotor design is simply better for a number of other reasons. If the walker machine is not throwing noticeably more grain out the back during normal harvest conditions then it would work fine for me.
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Post by garyfunk on Sept 16, 2023 8:17:00 GMT -6
kenmb, I'll be sure to let you know what I think are pros and cons of the two different designs when I get a chance. Right now we're going hard in the canola and I'm carting and binning from the two and it's keeping me busy, lol.
Went late last night and it's windy this morning so I expect we'll be going as soon as we get the machines serviced.
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Post by kevlar on Sept 16, 2023 10:52:48 GMT -6
Getting typical September weather here, cleaned up some of the oat pile yesterday morning and drying it, light mist and drizzle all day at home. Was doing wheat the night before and thought we had a bearing going so brought it home, turned out it wasnāt a bearing but a shield rubbing inside the feeder house, glad we found out that they donāt put a bearing on the feeder chain drive shaft in the centre anymore before we ripped it all apart. Took a drive down to the field just around 2:00 and the rain had stopped about a quarter of a mile north of it, it felt not bad so moved back down and got going around 5, testing 17.8, then a little sprinkle so likely a good 18 but kept going. That prompted a few texts and phone calls from people asking about it! Today is cloudy and damp again.
Weāre just over half done. Talked to a buddy and heās about 1/3 done, some might be 1/4 done. Weather needs to smarten up, it hasnāt been terrible but sure not great harvest weather. Going to have to dry all the wheat, most of the oats, and some of the barley to do yet. The way the canola is looking it might need something.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 16, 2023 12:30:13 GMT -6
Getting typical September weather here, cleaned up some of the oat pile yesterday morning and drying it, light mist and drizzle all day at home. Was doing wheat the night before and thought we had a bearing going so brought it home, turned out it wasnāt a bearing but a shield rubbing inside the feeder house, glad we found out that they donāt put a bearing on the feeder chain drive shaft in the centre anymore before we ripped it all apart. Took a drive down to the field just around 2:00 and the rain had stopped about a quarter of a mile north of it, it felt not bad so moved back down and got going around 5, testing 17.8, then a little sprinkle so likely a good 18 but kept going. That prompted a few texts and phone calls from people asking about it! Today is cloudy and damp again. Weāre just over half done. Talked to a buddy and heās about 1/3 done, some might be 1/4 done. Weather needs to smarten up, it hasnāt been terrible but sure not great harvest weather. Going to have to dry all the wheat, most of the oats, and some of the barley to do yet. The way the canola is looking it might need something. I feel bad saying weāre done here. Went fairly quick and every bushel dry! I would never make it in farming if I had to farm in the parkland! You got it tougher in many ways but I think the cooler weather must help grow some great crops . The south area here is more and more each year starting to look like Iowa !!! How do you clean up oat piles? Last one I did was with a rem grain vac with a stand up vacuum on wheels. Worked ok. Only thing is the more pipes you put on the less suction ! Before that I had a hydraulic super sweep attached to an 8 inch auger!!! When I think back to those younger days holding and shoveling to the drag it gives me the ibby gibbies!!!! Wish I had a bobcat or a big loader bucket back then! |
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Post by meskie on Sept 16, 2023 12:43:59 GMT -6
We are waiting on 450 acres of canola to be ready. Canola is dry the straw and pods are not.
Got our square straw bales made this morning my son needed some pre season hockey training stooking them and will finish up the last few round bales this afternoon.
Likely haul the squares tomorrow so he can get another workout.
Kinda strange to have some time to go watch my daughter play some volleyball this afternoon.
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Post by kevlar on Sept 16, 2023 13:31:28 GMT -6
Getting typical September weather here, cleaned up some of the oat pile yesterday morning and drying it, light mist and drizzle all day at home. Was doing wheat the night before and thought we had a bearing going so brought it home, turned out it wasnāt a bearing but a shield rubbing inside the feeder house, glad we found out that they donāt put a bearing on the feeder chain drive shaft in the centre anymore before we ripped it all apart. Took a drive down to the field just around 2:00 and the rain had stopped about a quarter of a mile north of it, it felt not bad so moved back down and got going around 5, testing 17.8, then a little sprinkle so likely a good 18 but kept going. That prompted a few texts and phone calls from people asking about it! Today is cloudy and damp again. Weāre just over half done. Talked to a buddy and heās about 1/3 done, some might be 1/4 done. Weather needs to smarten up, it hasnāt been terrible but sure not great harvest weather. Going to have to dry all the wheat, most of the oats, and some of the barley to do yet. The way the canola is looking it might need something. I feel bad saying weāre done here. Went fairly quick and every bushel dry! I would never make it in farming if I had to farm in the parkland! You got it tougher in many ways but I think the cooler weather must help grow some great crops . The south area here is more and more each year starting to look like Iowa !!! How do you clean up oat piles? Last one I did was with a rem grain vac with a stand up vacuum on wheels. Worked ok. Only thing is the more pipes you put on the less suction ! Before that I had a hydraulic super sweep attached to an 8 inch auger!!! When I think back to those younger days holding and shoveling to the drag it gives me the ibby gibbies!!!! Wish I had a bobcat or a big loader bucket back then! Iām not sure if Iām considered parkland or not, I always thought north of the park was considered parkland, Iām thinking more Twilight zone maybe? lol I donāt think a short growing season coupled with cooler climate translates to better yields, we can grow good crops but limited to types of crops and varieties. Just use the Brandt vac now, got a better nozzle for it to clean up piles, the ones they have are body breakers for a pile. Have tried every possible way to clean them up, all have advantages and disadvantages. Vac is a bit slower but itās all cleaned up as you go. We have one of the bigger Brandt ones so itās not too bad. |
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Post by kenmb on Sept 17, 2023 7:41:46 GMT -6
That would be good to hear Gary. I don't need massive capacity so a walker machine driven slower may be just fine. I do like less complexity. My smartest move would be to get another 2388 and keep grinding away with that model. But as I get older I am thinking faster/more capacity means an easier harvest. As long as I don't give up simplicity and reliability.
Still grinding away on the mustard. Have had a few sprinkles over the last five days so was out on Friday with 10 to 11% mustard and yesterday was from 11.5 down to 8%. Doing the last field straight cut and its even slower going with the throat opening on the 30ft Honeybee being the big hold back. Combine will do about 280bph in swaths as around 300 bph the airfoil chaffer overloads. Straightcut I have a hard time getting up to 220 bph. 45 ac mustard left then on to flax.
Looking forward to doing flax. I like combining it when it is September, not so much October or November with snow on ground like a few years ago. Like the smell of flax, how it feels and flows. Should have swathed all of it but will see how it goes this year. Straight cut I get a better thresh without overloading sieves, plus it is still there the next day after a big wind unlike the one year I was in a neighbours field to get my flax. Swathed flax on a nice day goes through chopper great so I always debate how much to swath.
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Post by willyboy on Sept 17, 2023 9:26:49 GMT -6
I run a 670 Lexion too and have been happy with it overall. Came from a 9600 and stayed with the walker machine for harvesting grass and forage seeds in NE Sask. This will be my third harvest with it. I struggle to get the capacity others talk about, I have been happy if I can get the monitor to read 12 ac/hr., I may have to hire you Meskie to come for a drive and show me what I'm doing wrong! We also usually don't have a full time cart operator so that would definitely help boost productivity. I would like to try and demo one of the twin rotors in the grass and forages and see how they compare. The 570's & 670's were popular around here for a while with people growing hemp but most of that is done now with the exception of a few growers. As to your comment Kenmb about plugging the drum over the walkers, the first season I had it when we went to canola I forgot to set the fingers on that drum. I hit a patch of wild buckwheat and in no time at all had alarms beeping! Climbed in the back and pulled it out (actually wasn't that bad), retracted fingers and never had anymore issues. We run this one alongside a 9770 and looking under the panels yesterday of both of them there sure seems like a lot less going on on the rotary!
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Post by meskie on Sept 17, 2023 11:47:39 GMT -6
We are generally in a drier area where we farm so capacity might be a bit more. Chugging through green canola the capacity has been in that 12-14 per hour. Mostly from walker loss. I could pound through more if we wanted. We had a cx8090 before we got our first lexion and it was 10-12acres/hour at the end of the year.
We will see how the maintenance costs are from the 670 to the 780. Iāve been told they are better but per acre we will see.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 19, 2023 6:15:49 GMT -6
Lots of harvest pressure the last week and a half on canola prices!
Due you guys out west who are in the later harvesting areas up north watch how the southern harvest is going to get a gage on canola prices. I wondered this because I took mine off when canola was still around 18 bucks.
But it seems the market reacts later to the big crop in the north western prairies ?
Also time of the usda reports during harvest make a big difference on price !
I started pricing out canola for next sept. Priced a few bushels at 16.73.
Where do you think canola prices are headed?
I hope we donāt see too much of a down turn!
One thing , lower crop prices should should put rising inflation to bed!
Any of you guys looking at 2024 new crop pricing. I am trying hard to secure up a good oat price . Last year lots of bugging got me 6 bucks off the combine!
I should be more patient , this past soybean harvest I combine 31 ish bpa beans and will have just enough beans to fill the 16-17 contracts. Oats I contracted Around 90 and harvested 90.
It is safe to say I know my limits, holy my dad would think I am way to aggressive pricing . He was more wait till itās in the bin !
Some days or years that works out better!!!
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Post by kenmb on Sept 19, 2023 8:14:39 GMT -6
Yes Willy boy, complexity is something I notice first. But then all combines have moved towards being more complex so I suppose it is something I must live with. I never gave a 670 much thought until recently, but may be a good option. Will see what comes up through winter. Wouldn't mind having something bought by spring. Finished picking up swathed flax and it was stupid dry, as in 3 to 5 on the 919 dial so under 7.5%. Can run 450 bph fairly easily, lots of chaff where the flax ran out of moisture and dried down long ago. Rotor at 780 rpm and concave 1/3 open. Once again the opposite of some recommendations for falx settings of wind up rotor as fast as you can and close concave to zero. Markets will do whatever the government reports say, is what it seems to me. Used to be a guy made money by figuring out where the government reports were BS and holding on. That's still my marketing plan. Energy going up. Inflation has been under control for a long time, the central banks are still exercising their plan. 10% debt cost for equipment, vehicles, houses etc will curb demand. The central banking cartel knew this for +100 years. The only unknown is whether it shows up in grain markets this year or next. Selling some 2024 crop may not be a bad idea. I like my life simple so likely not going to but perhaps come winter selling some wheat would be considered. I waited for one more leg up in wheat and didn't get it so still sitting on wheat. Will sell some mustard as soon as I get more samples out and contracts done. Don't plan to sell flax at $17 so wheat and flax are staying in the bin for a bit. Found out what my mystery plant is, not volunteer rape, it's wild mustard. Never had it as a problem weed to even pay attention to it before. This year it showed up in a big way. I can see it standing above my flax where I never saw it in flax before where it would be the easiest crop to spot it in. Plant in picture is over 6ft tall, most places the yellow mustard just beats out the wild mustard for height.
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Ā They sound like a pretty impressive machine.
