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Post by victory on Feb 9, 2024 10:30:23 GMT -6
I enjoy the staggered bars of the Sunnybrook cylinder very much. Makes for smoother feeding and less chance of plugging the cylinder.
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Post by kenmb on Feb 9, 2024 10:45:09 GMT -6
Yes, that would seem correct. Should tear apart lumps better. Never knew of such a design until I started looking into it the other day. Curious why no OEM has done such a thing as standard practice over the years. I would think there may be some drawbacks and therefore reason it is not common but if people like them then I would think a new Sunnybrook is something I would do also.
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Post by meskie on Feb 9, 2024 11:10:52 GMT -6
Dealer here has a local welding shop put new flighting on those bubble up auger and balance them. Used to be less than half the cost of a claas part.
The cylinders can bend a shaft but it a lot less common in the narrow body’s. Sunnybrook is a good upgrade I’m told but there is nothing wrong with a OEM one. A slightly used one that has been taken out would be alot cheaper route to go.
Always lots of little things to change on the machines every year but it’s way nicer to do preventive maintenance than fixing during the nicest part of the day. There are a few idler bearing we change every couple of years just because. Have had them go out on us and almost start a fire.
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Post by meskie on Feb 9, 2024 11:12:17 GMT -6
One owner told me that the Sunnybrook pushed the plug area back from the cylinder to the impeller so he had a Sunnybrook impeller put in also as they aren’t the most fun thing to unplug.
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Post by SWMan on Feb 10, 2024 0:35:38 GMT -6
Don't think you would regret money spent on the sunnybrook components. I have no direct head-to-head experience but did have the Claas enclosed cylinder in a 780 and it worked good but I do a lot of pea and soybean seed production so that requires running cylinder at some pretty low speeds and the extra weight of the Sunnybrook is really nice for that. This 750TT I just bought has new rub bars on a Claas cylinder and stock impeller, I was going to do the Sunnybrook impeller and run stock cylinder for a year to see but now am second-guessing myself on that. One thing that I always like to get the mechanic to do is put the rear concave clearance below the stock spec(which is 7MM front and 4MM rear). I like it around 2MM rear if possible to force that grain out when needed and take pressure off the rotors. Couple falls ago when I had my demo of a certain other brands new model(read between the lines here) we were doing a solid 80% of the capacity of that machine with less grain out the back while cutting lower in some tough wheat conditions. Basically running power limit all day and I credit a properly set up machine for throwing well under a third of a percent loss. I have had a machine where the concave was out of whack and it was nearly impossible to set.
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Post by joru on Feb 10, 2024 8:47:25 GMT -6
We are on our second Claas with a Sunnybrock cylinder. Absolutely love it, because of many reasons. There is one small downside and that is in very dry conditions you could have more broken/smashed wheat kernels. However, i brought during those conditions samples to the elevator and dockage didn't go up because the smashed kernels didn't go through the screens. We did also some soybean seed production and had no issues. You can run the cylinder slower than the Claas one.
PS: If someone needs an original Claas cylinder, slightly used, i would have 2 for sale ;-)
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Post by kenmb on Feb 11, 2024 15:25:19 GMT -6
Talked more with the sales guy (used to be a combine tech) and suggested rather than throw the dollars at the cylinder, I should do the SB impeller instead. I had already had him price in the sunflower knife kit so with more discussion the sensible plan seems to be the SB impeller and delete the sunflower knife kit and let them put a used stock Claas cylinder in. So think this is how I will go. I don't want to go crazy doing mods without ever running a machine but since everything is apart the labor will be no charge. Can contemplate other stuff as years go by.
This unit has one of those Arnold Innovations hydraulic cylinder reverses. When first looking at the machine the sales guy said these units do create the potential to use the reverses and perhaps overstress some components. Leads to speculating that perhaps the reverser did do something to the cylinder. Combine doesn't look beat up at all but perhaps a nasty pile of kochia and a guy too eager to reverse it without any other work to loosen the plug and so could lead to some damage. Don't know. Would depend on what is the weakest link - the reverser or the combine components.
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Post by meskie on Feb 11, 2024 16:09:41 GMT -6
My guess would be the reverser causing the tweak on the cylinder.
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