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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 27, 2024 20:21:31 GMT -6
Meskie, you may have come across that in the GM manuals in the past but I was skimming through part of the manual ( online that is, GM does not even publish the manuals anymore which blew me away, but can get the operators manual from an outside source ) where it talked about tire chains. It states that tire chains will fit on both front and rear of the 275/70R18 tires, but if it has the optional 275/65R20 tires then it claims there is not enough room to run them on either front or rear tires. The tire diameter is about 1 inch larger for the larger tire. That sucks as there are times when tire chains are needed and so unfortunately a negative for that size ( of course based on a non modified suspension truck )
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Post by meskie on Feb 27, 2024 20:28:13 GMT -6
Never run tire chains on my pickup so I have never come across that in the manual. I’m sure chains would fit just fin on the 20s as there is lots of room. I think the 18s are 33” the 20s 34” and lots of guys run 35 or a bit bigger on stock wheels and suspension on the new trucks.
My 23 came with a manual and my 24 only came with a duramax supplement manual.
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 27, 2024 21:12:18 GMT -6
Its hard to say if there is minimal clearance if for example the front tires are turned all the way and if that is fender well or a suspension component, the strange part is that they say its a no go in the rear also and I didn't get into all the other tire sizes they list where they say a certain size tire can have chains on the front only, or another size where only the rear can run chains. Then again it could be more about them covering their ass for someone fitting up chains loosely etc.
About the idiotic theme of them not including a main operators manual which is total bullshit in my mind, somehow they think everyone is connected at all times, that certainly writes me off !. At least they included the supplemental manual for your Duramax. I only learned this the other day as a friend had bought a Chev half ton and had asked the sales guy where the manual was and they told him "online", that certainly did not impress him. For anyone looking for GM manuals here is the main link and then the one below I generated for a 2024 HD and at the bottom of that page is the ability to order a paper copy of a manual.
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Post by meskie on Feb 27, 2024 21:20:33 GMT -6
It’s on the app….. 🙄
But if you need to find something you can search it and it will pop up which is easier then flipping through the book or trying to find what it’s called in the index. The supplement manual doesn’t tell you much I should look at it just to see what’s in it. Not my first duramax so didn’t think there would be much I didn’t know in it.
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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 8, 2024 18:15:50 GMT -6
I had a brief conversation with a customer who happened to pull up to Fort Gary today, he was driving a 2023 GM 3500 duramax and he made the comment that the last few years he has only kept a pickup for one year and then sold it off to a broker in the States. Somehow he got hooked up with this broker just as the shit show virus began and so he would buy a truck locally and use it for a year, then the broker would buy it from him and he would turn around and buy another truck locally. The stipulation was to do this he had to buy the truck personally ( he owns a logging truck company so could not put it under his company name ) and had to pay cash for the truck so no loan on the truck. Also the other stipulation was that the truck have no more than 80 some thousand km when it was sold off to the broker. He said in doing this and how things were so crazy these last few years with price increases and hard to get a truck, he was not paying anything for the next and the next truck or put another way not loosing anything by selling and buying another one. He figured that is about to come to an end and in my mind I bet its the end even though his truck is near time to sell it off to the broker. He said the broker has one of his guys fly up here and drive the truck across the border. And how the money is made is that its the dollar difference that the broker is using to his advantage. Yet trucks are cheaper in the states because of their dollar so not sure how that all computes. I have to wonder if the local Hutts are doing the same thing as per the Hutt that was telling me how they were flipping trucks every year lately but he never made a comment on just who was buying their vehicles. A game like that can only go on for so long and then the pendulum swings the other way and its back to vehicles being a vastly depreciating asset right off the show room floor. Goes to show though as to how next to new vehicles year wise have been vanishing from Canada and in so doing artificially propping up the created limited used market and the new sales market and those that have been in the market for buying a vehicle are taking the shaft in Canada.
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Post by Oatking on Mar 8, 2024 18:47:32 GMT -6
That is probably a common game that was going on for several years with the chip problem. I do notice a lot of 20-23 model vehicles have next to no kms on them . I was looking for a suv for the wife . Narrowed it down to a Honda crv and a Volkswagen Tiguan . I ended up buy a 2021 highland r-line loaded for 35 grand . It had 34000 kms. It is basically new but without the new price which is 53000. One Tiguan only had 12000 kms for s 22 model.
Least one good thing about Covid is it started the trend of people working from home and not driving anywhere.
The dealership was very empty . But they said used market is picking up now.
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Post by meskie on Mar 8, 2024 19:16:54 GMT -6
I know guys who have been doing that with ford vehicles for a few years. They have a buddy down in the states that has a dealership and he tells them what he wants them to buy then buys it after 6 months to a year. They buy enough it was under the ford fleet program. A couple flips ago they made over 15g per vehicle. They used to do it and basically break even or cost a couple thousand a year to drive a brand new vehicle.
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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 8, 2024 20:16:03 GMT -6
This person I had talked to prior to the GM had Ford super duty's, in fact his last one was a Platinum but when he gave it up for the broker to bring it down to the states he could not get a Ford so he went to GM instead. That broker must not care that it had to be a Ford but the theme I gathered was crew cab 4x4 one ton and diesel and all those other distance and how the unit was bought and under who's name. The problem I see in all of this is if some are getting a literal free ride on a normally depreciating asset, someone else is paying in the end to make up for what occurred.
On the other hand the used market for some vehicle types as you pointed out Oatking, vehicles that did stay within Canada did depreciate rather dramatically with the numbers you experienced in shopping and on vehicles that had relatively low km. That is in my mind anyway more the norm and why buying new tended to be the privilege that cost the new car buyer with the initial hit in depreciation.
Ram sure has offered some fairly good discounts on some models of 1/2 ton, more so the 2023 but even with 2024 and surprised how many 2023 models are still kicking around. GM, again discounts on 2023 1/2 tons and some discounts on some models of 2024 1/2 ton but very little in the way for the HD lineup of 2024, some remaining 2023 HD with fair discounts. Ford, they too have fair discounts on some 1/2 tons but around here there is hardly a Super Duty being advertised for sale ( seems they tend to hide the fleet sale trucks from their website ) I can only guess there must be more 1/2 tons around built up in inventory over the HD lineup and companies tend to buy a lot of HD trucks for their forestry or oilfield fleets. One item I came across lately, a dealer in Edmonton had over 20 Chev 3500 Duramax 2023 model trucks that I assume were all spec'd the same as they all had the same MSRP and the same discount and they haven't disappeared.
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Post by Oatking on Mar 8, 2024 20:42:36 GMT -6
I know guys who have been doing that with ford vehicles for a few years. They have a buddy down in the states that has a dealership and he tells them what he wants them to buy then buys it after 6 months to a year. They buy enough it was under the ford fleet program. A couple flips ago they made over 15g per vehicle. They used to do it and basically break even or cost a couple thousand a year to drive a brand new vehicle. I am surprised that buying power still exists after the plandemic. Maybe speciality vehicles like the 3500s are not as plenty full . I was told at the Chevy dealer bringing back a one year old vehicle is not a good idea because you will eat major depreciation ! Actually I eat major depreciation with my dodge Ram. I know it wasn’t the best deal but I am h as pot with my diesel z71 . I think it’s a healthier environment when depreciation means something again . That was a crazy time with 0 percent increase and minimal loss of value in a one or two year old car or truck,
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Post by Oatking on Mar 8, 2024 21:00:40 GMT -6
A little off topic , however I can’t believe the surge in used highway tractors for sale or at auction ! The RB auction in st Agathe had quite the line up of company trucks for auction . Even load line in winkler has quite a few . Man never thought I would see a two hundred thousand dollar used tandem at load line !
Seems like used trucks a plenty now .
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Post by meskie on Mar 8, 2024 21:08:22 GMT -6
A little off topic , however I can’t believe the surge in used highway tractors for sale or at auction ! The RB auction in st Agathe had quite the line up of company trucks for auction . Even load line in winkler has quite a few . Man never thought I would see a two hundred thousand dollar used tandem at load line ! Seems like used trucks a plenty now . Lots of trucks advertised on kijiji for a month or more now. Before they wouldn’t last a week. Prices keep getting reduced and still not selling. Not sure who would spend 200g on a tandem truck. Could buy a pretty nice truck and set of b trains for that money.
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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 8, 2024 21:18:33 GMT -6
I was told at the Chevy dealer bringing back a one year old vehicle is not a good idea because you will eat major depreciation ! Actually I eat major depreciation with my dodge Ram. I know it wasn’t the best deal but I am h as pot with my diesel z71 .
Speaking of your Chev 1/2 ton, what trim level is it as per LT, LTZ etc ( and obviously has some or all of the z71 package which should mean you have the two speed transfer case and probably the 4 high auto mode as well ) and is that a bench or bucket seat with center console. I am also guessing that it would have the 3.23 axle ratio given they don't seem to want to put the Z71 with the Max Tow package and give it the 3.73 axle with two speed transfer case.
What do you think of the seat comfort, I tend to hear a lot of comments about how firm the seats are no matter how high the trim level is in the Gm trucks and wish they felt like the Ford higher level trim seats.
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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 8, 2024 21:36:22 GMT -6
A little off topic , however I can’t believe the surge in used highway tractors for sale or at auction ! The RB auction in st Agathe had quite the line up of company trucks for auction . Even load line in winkler has quite a few . Man never thought I would see a two hundred thousand dollar used tandem at load line ! Seems like used trucks a plenty now . Speaking of highway tractors, I happened to see a tow truck dragging in a tri drive truck into the Ritchie Bros auction site this morning, their next sale is in a few days so not sure if that was a truck for this auction or the next but sure gives a lot of confidence to see a truck being dragged to auction LOL. I never paid any attention to the lineup of heavy trucks they had on this sale nor looked at them online. At Fort Gary I had walked to the back of the store to use the can and overheard a stock guy talking to a stock girl mentioning how it feels weird to get paid for doing next to nothing on days like this .... then at the front counter that guy spoke up and said how slow its been the last weeks as I thought maybe it was the time of day I hit the place but I guess that was not the case. Normally when I go in there its busy and waiting for someone to give me a hand finding something or standing in line to pay, not this time.
GP has the agri show going on Thursday to Saturday and I never went to it but was in Case this morning and that parts guy had been at their booth yesterday and while it tends not to be as busy the first day, he said it was extremely dead, so who knows if it picked up today and then tomorrow its typical for school children to be streaming .... or is that screaming around the place to get free candy and so on.
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Post by meskie on Mar 8, 2024 21:39:46 GMT -6
Seats are firm but they do break in and got a bit softer over time. I preferred the older seats in my 2016 over the new ones. My dad had a 2013 1/2 ton with leather and those seats were some of my favourite beside the mid 90s Chevy seats.
Had the engine light coming on and off on my new duramax. Took it in and the egr valve is bad. At least parts are easier to get now. It was a 3 week wait for NOx sensors a couple years ago. Parts guy said he used to keep at least one in stock.
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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 8, 2024 22:18:15 GMT -6
Seats are firm but they do break in and got a bit softer over time. I preferred the older seats in my 2016 over the new ones. My dad had a 2013 1/2 ton with leather and those seats were some of my favourite beside the mid 90s Chevy seats. Had the engine light coming on and off on my new duramax. Took it in and the egr valve is bad. At least parts are easier to get now. It was a 3 week wait for NOx sensors a couple years ago. Parts guy said he used to keep at least one in stock.
I get the idea that there is so little thickness to the cushions, they sure are not like my brothers older Ford super duty with the "real" leather seats. I am purely speculating that they go slim on the seats for not only the cost savings but the roof height and my head is so close to hitting the roof, not the only vehicle I've had that problem with though LOL.
I can guess that if you had a choice and could delete the engine at a sane price and not loose any warranty and no issues down the road in reselling the unit ( trading it in ) to a dealer, you would seriously consider it. The guy I talked to today with 80000 km put on in one year, he had zero issues with the engine system surprisingly but said that a friend of his with the same unit type is having various emissions issues and he felt it was because that guy idles his truck for hours on end all the time and a good chance that had quite a bearing on it.
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