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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 13, 2024 11:09:51 GMT -6
Yeah it's nothing special in terms of power but it seems to do what I ask of it, I rarely tow anything with it though. It has more HP then a 90s V8 and weighs 1000 pounds less then the other brand steel trucks for perspective. Can do over 1000km on a tank of fuel. It's also alot easier and cheaper to work on, alot of room in the engine bay. Speaking of those EcoBoosts, my dad got his timing chain done on his in 2019ish and it was over $10k back then. This one was $4k this summer, got 300,000 kms on it. It's not the engine for everyone but I think it would work just fine for alot of people I looked through the lineup of engine options for the new F150 and I see they don't offer the 3.5 na, I get the idea that engine was dropped a few years ago but anyway their base engine now is a 3.3 litre na but with both port and direct fuel injection. So that looks to be the engine one would want if a turbo is not desired or jump to the 5.0. Definitely the Fords have the advantage over others with their weight reduction. The cost to replace the timing chain on that ecoboost, isn't that quite the prospect when one thinks of a major engine issue and what the cost of total replacement would be. Its no wonder I get the impression from some vehicle owners that they want to make sure to dump their vehicle before the warranty runs out, that means someone else as per the used truck buyer could be saddled with a worthless truck if it was a ticking time bomb and why I am rather leery of used vehicles with the cost of repairs and no idea how crappy it was treated or maintained.
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 13, 2024 11:38:01 GMT -6
You can get heat in the leather bench or at least you could when I ordered mine in June. For an extra 35 grand over mine I coulda got the real leather in the ultimate and have massaging seats as well. Along with a bunch of other options I would likely not use. I tried going through the SLT theme and seems as soon as I chose heated seats it throws in the other packages to give bucket seats. Or is your truck an SLE ?. Also the wheels you have in the photo, those are 18's right ?
As a few have commented on the idiotic capless fuel filler, do these engineers live in inside of a glass bubble or something. Just blows me away as dirt or moisture is a thing, even on pavement but without a doubt on gravel which is something a lot of people are actually foreign to. So lets say one wants a locking fuel cap, I don't imagine that is possible to use on such a filler neck ?. And GM puts the capless fill on the half ton diesel but puts a fill cap on the 6.6 duramax. Like Kenmb said, I also have an old Massey Harris and I see that every time on the gas cap when I fill it, rather interesting why at that point in time they found it so important to mention it that they would go to the expense of creating a stamp process that embossed that wording. What also makes no sense in my world is that as far as I know GM ( not sure about the other pickups ) does not have any form of fuel filter on any of their gas pickups, its the sock in the fuel tank. My dad never had any sort of fuel filter on the gravity gasoline storage tank but did put one on some of the diesel tanks, the amount of crap that would get into the inline gas fuel filters certainly showed the lack of pre filtering due to an old rusty storage tank. I put two types of filters inline on the gas storage tank, a typical goldenrod filter and then a phase separation water absorbing spin on filter like they use at gas stations inside their pump housing. They rarely have to be changed out and I changed them both a couple of months ago and took the spin on specialty filter apart and it certainly had captured some crap in it that the golden rod filter let through.
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Post by meskie on Feb 13, 2024 11:53:25 GMT -6
Mine is an SLT model and yes those are the 18” wheels. Wanted the 20s but they weren’t putting the 20s on the lower trims.
When I was ordering it the dealer had the option for heated leather bench not sure if you can build that yourself online. They could have changed it now also and the heated leather bench isn’t available. Like Ken had said aftermarket heater is an option if you wanted that. I do know a couple people that have gone that way and been happy with it.
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Post by bob123 on Feb 13, 2024 12:26:31 GMT -6
I think that the online builder is alot more rigid then what you can actually do at the salesman's desk?
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 13, 2024 12:54:27 GMT -6
Mine is an SLT model and yes those are the 18” wheels. Wanted the 20s but they weren’t putting the 20s on the lower trims. When I was ordering it the dealer had the option for heated leather bench not sure if you can build that yourself online. They could have changed it now also and the heated leather bench isn’t available. Like Ken had said aftermarket heater is an option if you wanted that. I do know a couple people that have gone that way and been happy with it. It would seem they have changed their wheel option choices since then according the online order calculator, for the SLT they have an 18" or a 20" choice, the SLE on the other hand has a 17", 18", 20" ( I believe the 17 inch might reduce the GVW ). However Chev for whatever reason has many more wheel options on both the LT and LTZ, up to 12 different wheel options going all the way up to 22" although some of the wheels can only be had with another package within that trim level. Having said all that, the wheel prices are fricken insane for the so called higher end wheels being an extra 5 grand on top of the standard wheel package. Goes to show where the money can be made by upselling on wheels and interior gadgets.
You make a good point about online build it yourself vs what a dealer can do as I have not gone to a dealer to ask those types of questions rather than mistakenly assumed the the online choices are written in stone.
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Post by meskie on Feb 13, 2024 13:34:28 GMT -6
I also noticed the chev has way more options for rims than the GMC does which seems strange to me. I wouldn’t go smaller then the 18” rim as the 17” doesn’t give a lot of clearance between the rims and the brakes. Stones can get stuck and wear out the rim.
The sales desk order sheet seems to have a few more options compared to the online builder. When I was building my truck the salesman used the online builder but had mentioned that when they got the actual allocation for the build he could go through and pick a delete a few options compared to the online one. With the plant still not functioning properly and not being able to Sorce all the parts it sometimes didn’t work out to get exactly what I wanted. There was a couple colours not available along with the 20” rims for me.
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 13, 2024 20:52:40 GMT -6
I was looking at both the Chev and GM sites lately but flipping back and forth randomly and just never donned on me that Chev had the long list of wheels and GM not so much, very odd as you would think they would follow a similar marketing plan. Good you pointed that out about the inside of the rim to caliper clearance as I have certainly seen photos of some real messes of vehicles that had very limited clearance and a stone cut the wheel in half it was so bad, now that would be a bad day.
A couple of months ago I had walked into a GM dealer to grab some calendars as they typically have a variety of nice calendars, vintage car or pickup themes. So by fluke I was talking to the general sales manager and he was saying that GM pushes the high end pickups onto them, so they are forced to get so many of them and then are able to pick and chose other models for the remaining few. Their inventory was building up unlike its been for the last few years. He also commented and probably was burning his ass, that the Chev dealer in town had won a fleet order from one company ( don't know who but can guess probably an oilfield company ) of 100 trucks as they were cheaper for a certain spec then the GM offer that they presented. I'll bet it fairly staggering as to the number of company pickups that are around Grande Prairie and the Peace country.
Last year and with that strike also going on as well, none of that helped the supply chain and no doubt that played a part in your not able to pick some of the items you wanted even though its listed by GM as a viable option.
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Post by SWMan on Feb 14, 2024 0:24:25 GMT -6
northernfarmer it has the two fuel filters and I usually get the dealer to change them but also keep some here. I think they probably get done at 30,000km or so and I don't think they are ever unusually dirty. Dad taught me to be very particular about dirt and water in oil and fuel, which would affect fuel system problems. I've seen some pretty sloppy fuel fillers over the years, I guess some guys really trust their filters... I am still very much alive and doing well, just focusing on some different things recently. Didn't think anyone would miss me. ha ha
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 14, 2024 5:14:12 GMT -6
northernfarmer it has the two fuel filters and I usually get the dealer to change them but also keep some here. I think they probably get done at 30,000km or so and I don't think they are ever unusually dirty. Dad taught me to be very particular about dirt and water in oil and fuel, which would affect fuel system problems. I've seen some pretty sloppy fuel fillers over the years, I guess some guys really trust their filters... I am still very much alive and doing well, just focusing on some different things recently. Didn't think anyone would miss me. ha ha I know how some treat their fuel filters or at least in the past, when the engine is loosing power is when they change their filters which may in some cases depending on the filter mean its collapsing and dirt is getting past, never mind the lack of fuel in the pump system of whatever engine. Speaking of diesel fuel, are you buying fuel from a retailer that blends magical potions into the fuel at the bulk station or dumping an additive into your storage tanks at the time of fuel delivery. Just curious if there is a lubricity product that has been used in your Fords or if its just the typical unadulterated fuel from the refinery. I know some truckers or farmers or the diesel pickup owner will dump in howes, or its hotshot secrets and so on. Every time I see someone on youtube show their failed diesel pickup fuel system the comments come out "but you should have been using XYZ additive as the failure would not have happened"
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Post by SWMan on Feb 14, 2024 22:47:40 GMT -6
Just Petro Canada fuel, no additives.
I can't make sense of all the different additives, and very hard to verify if any do what they say. So just sticking with the simple route.
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 14, 2024 23:22:08 GMT -6
Thats good to know because otherwise the guy that pours many $$ of mystery additives into the tank and then claims that of course is why his pump never gave problems, there is no guarantee whatever was added did a darned thing. It really is impossible to know what is snake oil out there and what actually has properties that pay back. Like in Alberta, UFA has been marketing Dieselex Gold, I have never bought any and still don't know if its of benefit or not, I can't claim it isn't but the neighbour that has been buying it doesn't really know either if its doing anything. Marketing of snake oils into fuel and oil has been around for well over 100 years as far as I know, some have been proven to do something while others cause harm and they all drain a persons pocket book ! One thing is fairly likely, that there is a very nice markup on such products and so its very tempting as a specialty automotive shop to line up the bottles/display on the counter to flog whatever it is even if its more hype than function.
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Post by hardrockacres on Feb 15, 2024 7:27:29 GMT -6
I have use the Stanadyne in the past for diesel. Figured if they build injection commponents they would know what helps or not. In my mind I think its better that the row of brands I have never heard of in the Cdn tire isle.
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 15, 2024 11:04:37 GMT -6
I have use the Stanadyne in the past for diesel. Figured if they build injection components they would know what helps or not. In my mind I think its better that the row of brands I have never heard of in the Cdn tire isle. That should stand to reason and I realize some additives have purposes such as being a biocide, and some in theory a lubricity enhancer, and others that may help keep the wax molecules from bonding or their claim anyway. Who distributes Stanadyne additives as its not something that one just stumbles over like the proverbial additive isle at Crappy Tire. And that Dieselex Gold product that UFA put the push on a few years ago to sell ( blend into the fuel at the bulk station ) is supposed to have a biocide as part of the package and other properties such as a lubricant and a better burn that the big wigs down in the states that make the product claim give better fuel mileage. The funny part was that I had asked one of the UFA fuel delivery drivers a while after they started selling the product and wondered if they were burning it in their trucks and if he noticed an increase in fuel mileage, yes they were using it but nope was the answer to noticing a reduction in fuel being used. That is too small of a sample size or example and after all they are doing so much stop and go and idling and its not consistent like the same route down the highway but still I had to chuckle over the answer.
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Post by hardrockacres on Feb 15, 2024 12:43:58 GMT -6
I have gotten mine from the local equipment dealer. From their web page it is carried by most diesel injection repair facilities. Also found it on Amazon and ebay.
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 15, 2024 20:51:27 GMT -6
I though this might amuse some of you, one of my uncles back in the 1970's had one of these, I am not sure what year his was or what engine it had but I did ride in it on his rather crazy winding steep driveway up to a hill top where the yard sat in the south western part of Alberta where he had a small ranch a stones throw away from Montana. Those were sure tall trucks compared to most anything else on the market, they had fantastic clearance compared to the typical two wheel drive at the time. Funny how times have changed, here in western Canada, it used to be many two wheel drive trucks on the sales lot and very few 4x4's, not to mention most truck buyers didn't think they would need or want to pay for a 4x4. Now there is hardly a buyer for a new two wheel drive pickup and I wouldn't doubt if they have to special order in such a pickup as they would have a tough time selling one to the average buyer. I had assumed all these years that Ford simply wanted the truck up really high but there was a reason for what they did to make it all work at the time.
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