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Post by slipclutch on Jul 24, 2022 10:03:04 GMT -6
Hah!! Agree
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Post by kevlar on Jul 24, 2022 10:13:53 GMT -6
So true! Our worst crops are right beside the main(ish) road, best looking canola is right behind my yard hidden by bush.
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Post by iamwill on Jul 25, 2022 18:46:25 GMT -6
Finished haying all the pivot corners and got 283 5×6 bales off about 125 acres. Not great but still 4× what we got last year and last year we hayed 30 or so acres more. The barley we seeded after the fall rye at the end of June is starting to head out. Looks like crap, thin no tillers, if we get 100 bpa I will be astounded (it is irrigated) normal yield for spring seeded is about 150+. Guess that experiment will be chalked up as a learning experience.
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Post by slipclutch on Jul 26, 2022 5:38:17 GMT -6
What’s you’re recipe for 150+ barley. Fertilizer Wise? The best I ever got was 115 bu.
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Post by iamwill on Jul 27, 2022 9:45:48 GMT -6
No really extravagant fertilizer blend just 140N 60P actual per acre. No K or S as our soil is naturally high in K and the irrigation water is high in S (among other things). I don't put much faith in soil sampling as I still can't understand the results. For example how can soil P levels go up or down more than 100lbs per acre from year to year using the same sampling locations and the same lab? How can a wheat crop use 160 lbs of P in one field and in another right beside it return 120 lbs with the same fertilizer applied in the spring? Doesn't make any sense to me. That said residual N is usually about 80lbs and P about 120lbs but the variability is what I would consider extreme.
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Post by garyfunk on Jul 27, 2022 13:39:47 GMT -6
iamwill, how do you keep that standing?
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Post by slipclutch on Jul 27, 2022 17:09:12 GMT -6
Yeah. How you keep that standing? I put 70lbs this year only because I was late putting it in. I had 65lbs leftover from last year. And she went down lately. Typically I put 120.
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Post by SWMan on Jul 27, 2022 19:20:47 GMT -6
Difference between big crops standing and flat is growth regulator. I used to have flat crops every year it seemed, now almost always standing. Somehow I seem to think leaving a checkstrip is worth doing, here is this years and it shows big time again!   |
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Post by iamwill on Jul 27, 2022 23:03:59 GMT -6
I actually don't use growth regulators. Have tried some in the past with mixed results, not sure if it is variety related or just the fact that with our variable soils the timing is hard to get right. I think the biggest factor in keeping it standing is variety, if you seed Austenson and put the fertilizer to it you will regret it, same with a lot of other varieties. Bill Coors 100 stands fairly well and the best standing variety I have ever grown is Thompson which is an older one. In my area which is generally dry and sunny it seems the crops don't get as tall as they do not have to compete for sunlight as much, my theory not sure if it's true or not. Luck also has a lot to do with keeping it standing if you just finished irrigating and get a thunderstorm with a bunch of rain and wind it will definitely go down and it will not come back up. Last year with the drought and heat we irrigated like crazy and it lodged early, the spots that went down were a good 20 bpa less than what was standing.
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Post by radar on Jul 28, 2022 0:07:51 GMT -6
Great pics of the test pass SW man.. How much shorter do you think it is ? You use Manipulator?
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Post by slipclutch on Jul 28, 2022 6:05:07 GMT -6
Yeah that’s what my wheat looks like. Lying down in places. Barley too. Last year I tried manipulator didn’t see anything but having said that it was sooo dry here that nothing was good. I’m thinking next year I’ll put manipulator on all the cereals.
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Post by kevlar on Jul 28, 2022 7:06:21 GMT -6
Did anyone else get the declaration contract to sign from viterra saying you didn’t spry Manipulator on your barley? I don’t ever remember seeing that one before on their declaration, just thought I would mention it in case some of you never read it before signing it. We’ve never sprayed pgr’s before, maybe Manipulator is never even put on barley, I don’t know?
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Post by northernfarmer on Jul 28, 2022 7:20:29 GMT -6
This is two year old information but appears its registered for barley, yet there seems to be an issue if sold for malt but not if sold for feed. That may have changed since then so just curious what type of contract that was at Viterra.
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Post by kevlar on Jul 28, 2022 7:28:18 GMT -6
It’s their Declaration of Eligibility to Deliver contract. Just states it can’t be sprayed on any barley delivered to them, doesn’t just state malt barley. Likely because they blend the feed with the malt 😝
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Post by northernfarmer on Jul 28, 2022 8:08:02 GMT -6
I was tempted to say that as well, I would not put it past some of these grain companies to take feed barley and sell it as malt. What I wonder is what is their excuse for not taking "feed" barley assuming manipulator is still registered to use on feed barley. I also wonder if all grain companies are acting this way in regards to barley or if its exclusive to Viterra.
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