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Post by slipclutch on Nov 26, 2022 0:46:48 GMT -6
Dam hoppers! The worst bin to store grian.
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Post by northernfarmer on Nov 26, 2022 10:32:46 GMT -6
I hardly have any cables either unfortunately and would have to start all over again as these were the old style cables and reader. Have aeration on some bins and some of those are small hopper bins and have at times put grain/canola into them and then ran the fans, then transferred out into non aerated bins which is a total pain to get it all accomplished during harvest but the alternative being a possibility of heated grain. I reserve certain aerated bins for canola if I can so I can cool them if need be some right at harvest and then later on when its freezing and get the temps right down. As to canola starting to heat, that has happened to me as well and was in those small hopper bins and was marginally if not quite dry and also warmer than desirable and had not realized that I should have made it a priority to put fans on those bins. I think in that one instance the canola was not quite dry because it wasn't cured out even though it had been in a swath for a fair length of time, there was a reason it was not dry and it was not the weather. Now this year and I can't make any claims about what we did as being correct or not and if problems will arise in any canola bins but while we sat waiting for time to go by with swathed canola, we were shocked to see a neighbour out there combining canola that had been swathed quite a bit later then ours and I think only a week after it had been swathed. First they hand sampled and that told them it was dry, then went diving into it and they found out it was 10 or over, then the next day they tried again and the moisture had dropped a lot but to us it still seemed very questionable that it would be actually cured, was it ... I don't know. Canola is a weird thing, it can test dry and roll out fine and yet not really be cured. I ran into the same issue this fall that you did with greenish pods under the swath in a sheltered area of a field that I had swathed quite a few days later then the main field and left it for quite a while as a result but then rain was in the forecast and sheltered swathes that are about to have leaves fall on them is no good either so I combined it and some of the more sheltered swathes were not quite dry because it was evident they were not cured underneath as the canola was still too green in those areas when swathed while some more out in the open was fairly dry. Rather then risk dumping it into a bin of known good canola I called up a couple of elevators and one had room and said bring it in so I hauled in the dribble in the bottom of the trailer to make sure I didn't cause myself a problem.
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Post by victory on Nov 26, 2022 11:35:46 GMT -6
Our biggest bins are 11,000 bu, so nothing real big. Have air on some of the hopper bins which is where we put the canola when possible. The real piece of mind for us is the grain air tubes which are installed in all the bins 2000 bu or bigger. They don't require electricity. Basically cuts the bin diameter in half for cooling purposes. Have even had some grain start to grow around the tube at the height of the grain. Shows how much warm air and moisture are rising through the tube. Biggest nuisance with the grain air tubes is when filling the bins. Have to be careful not to lower the auger spout on to the tube. Grain flow doesn't work well like that!
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Post by kevlar on Nov 26, 2022 11:49:08 GMT -6
Our biggest bins are 11,000 bu, so nothing real big. Have air on some of the hopper bins which is where we put the canola when possible. The real piece of mind for us is the grain air tubes which are installed in all the bins 2000 bu or bigger. They don't require electricity. Basically cuts the bin diameter in half for cooling purposes. Have even had some grain start to grow around the tube at the height of the grain. Shows how much warm air and moisture are rising through the tube. Biggest nuisance with the grain air tubes is when filling the bins. Have to be careful not to lower the auger spout on to the tube. Grain flow doesn't work well like that! How many tubes do you put in a bin that size and how close to the floor do you go? Our biggest bins are 10,000 and always thought those tubes would work pretty good. Much of a hassle to clean the bin out with them in there? How do they hook to the roof?
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Post by victory on Nov 26, 2022 17:24:57 GMT -6
Just 1 tube per bin. They hang by 4 chains bolted to the cap ring. They come in 8' sections. Think they have 4' too. The sections get screwed together so you can make whatever length you want. They make a adjustable height pedestal to put on the floor of the bin to help support the tube. The tube is meant to be approximately 3' from the floor. I put 3 guy wires/small cables on each tube and tie them to the bin wall to keep the tube centered in the bin when filling it. One caution: there is a lot of downward pull on the tube when unloading from the center. I had a couple of older non westeel bins that the cap ring buckled on. I had a circle king auger in the bin and didn't get the pedestal centered well or something I guess. The pedestal just has one 3/8 bolt that you loosen and then slide the pedestal up to the bottom of the tube to allow for easy cleaning of the bin.
Some of the smaller bins I just hung 1 8' section from the roof. That is the area that usually tends to heat first (4 or 5 feet down from the top of the bin).
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Post by wheatking76 on Nov 26, 2022 23:04:07 GMT -6
x2 on the air tubes i have them in a couple 3300's i always put my canola in them for peace of mind never had an issue. canola in other bins I've had to move it, had to move some canola around about a month ago as it was getting warm, canola was dry but there was alot of kochia in it which i think was driving the temp up
seems like those air tube were really popular approx. 15 yrs ago, but now most bin just come with fans now so no need for the tube, guy i bought these bins from claimed he kept 19% wheat in them for 3 month after harvest no problem which I've never been brave enough to find out for my self
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