gleanerl
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Post by gleanerl on Aug 16, 2024 20:36:14 GMT -6
Just out of curiosity, I wonder what percentage of us farmers that looked at slipclutch's picture of corn counted rows and kernels? Put me down as one 😁. I've frost seeded(broadcast) single cut clover for years into winter wheat. Kill it off end of Oct and chisel plow. Sure makes my heavy clay nice to work in spring. Any N is seen as a bonus to next crop. Stand of clover can be thin depending on wheat thickness and moisture. Not as consistent as when I would plant it with spring wheat. Not my corn. It’s SW mans post. I just replied to it. But yes I counted kernels too. If my corn makes it to the end It will be plentiful crop. I think it will freeze tho. How many round and long are your cobs gleanerl? I have some at 14rR 36L. And 16R 34L. Saw a 20R 40L too. Crazy young corn. Three weeks behind I would say avg cobs are 16 round, 42L. Haven't checked all varieties. I don't push heat units for max yield. I prefer a steady yielder that matures and dries down well. I hate to say much given the adverse conditions so many are dealing with but my county here in Ontario has been having one of our best growing years I can remember. Friends in the heart of farm land in southern Ontario seem to be having their worst.(wet) Ottawa to Montreal area is bad from what I'm told, just won't stop raining. Another 80mm forecast this weekend after some areas getting 150mm last weekend.
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Post by iamwill on Aug 16, 2024 21:15:04 GMT -6
16×42 should equate to about 240-260 bpa depending on plant stand according to my math. That would be a phenomenal crop in my area. How is it progressing?
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gleanerl
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Post by gleanerl on Aug 17, 2024 5:57:29 GMT -6
Corn is progressing along very well. By the time the racoons, black birds, bear, deer and the odd time elk(which our provincial govn"t reintroduced 10-15 years ago, thank you!!!!) yield is more in the 160-180bu dry range. This year looks to have top end potential.
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bigal
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Post by bigal on Aug 17, 2024 13:29:12 GMT -6
1.5 inches yesterday . Will help beans fill and produce the Arizona pods !!! But at 11 dollars a bushel I don’t think a trip to Arizona is in the plans !! Maybe a grey cup trip !!! Lots of fog this morning . That rain lodged a lot of crops . It’s a double edged sword to have all my oats in the swath . But the rain would have made the oats lay down corner to corner so it would probable take awhile to dry out . Plus it’s hard to pick up . Good thing diesel has come down in price ! We will be using a lot of it Yup, the rain lodged a pretty good chunk of my boss's oats. Probably will put the lifters on the swather. Corn and soybeans sure needed it though. Hopefully the corn gets enough time to finish.
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Post by Oatking on Aug 17, 2024 16:41:36 GMT -6
1.5 inches yesterday . Will help beans fill and produce the Arizona pods !!! But at 11 dollars a bushel I don’t think a trip to Arizona is in the plans !! Maybe a grey cup trip !!! Lots of fog this morning . That rain lodged a lot of crops . It’s a double edged sword to have all my oats in the swath . But the rain would have made the oats lay down corner to corner so it would probable take awhile to dry out . Plus it’s hard to pick up . Good thing diesel has come down in price ! We will be using a lot of it Yup, the rain lodged a pretty good chunk of my boss's oats. Probably will put the lifters on the swather. Corn and soybeans sure needed it though. Hopefully the corn gets enough time to finish. I have a mixed view of lifters ! I threw all mine out after one broke off and caused combine damage . Straw chopper did not like it . Adjust the fore and aft on the reel and you should be good. But my problem was one half was flat and other half was standing . Hard to run reel all the way down . I tried that and you quickly get a bale of oats on the reel ! Oh man !
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Post by bigal on Aug 17, 2024 19:27:48 GMT -6
Yup, the rain lodged a pretty good chunk of my boss's oats. Probably will put the lifters on the swather. Corn and soybeans sure needed it though. Hopefully the corn gets enough time to finish. I have a mixed view of lifters ! I threw all mine out after one break me off and caused combine damage . Straw chopper did not like it . Adjust the fore and aft on the reel and you should be good. But my problem was one half was flat and other half was standing . Hard to run reel all the way down . I tried that and you quickly get a bale of oats on the reel ! Oh man ! 10-4, I don't have much experience with lifters, but it crossed my mind too about the possibility of a lifter breaking off and getting left in the swath. Oats aren't 100% flat, so reel alone to pick them up could be tricky. Hopefully we can make something work.
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Post by Oatking on Aug 17, 2024 19:28:38 GMT -6
It’s eerily quiet on the farm ! This smoke and no wind has really put a halt to any significant drying ! Red sky at night farmers delight they say but the forecast does not follow thru !
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Post by cptusa on Aug 17, 2024 21:12:35 GMT -6
16×42 should equate to about 240-260 bpa depending on plant stand according to my math. That would be a phenomenal crop in my area. How is it progressing? What population are you assuming with that?
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Post by SWMan on Aug 17, 2024 23:13:59 GMT -6
Yeah I'm not sure about that math either, although I'm not sure how to count length because although the cobs start 14-18R they never end that way unless there is major tip-back. And so that picture I posted the other day was at the time a few days old, here is the current state of affairs which may or may not be better. First two cobs are from here, same field the first picture was taken from and two different varieties. I have a trial in this field, 7 varieties total and the Dekalb 2136 looks the best at this point. Next three cobs are actually from random fields in the neighborhood of some posters here from the RRV. I sent junior in and told him to grab the biggest cob he could find, some serious tip-back there and major pollination issues on one. I really hope this is not what all the corn looks like, maybe we just had bad luck because it sure looks okay from the road. Don't think USDA will be calling me for crop tours ahead...ha ha Last cob is mine from my field that blew twice and had to regrow both times in June. It looks tremendous but I honestly think it's two weeks behind where it should be. Not sure how many days separate the first and last cob, even the first ones are behind. Like slipclutch said, this corn may very well not make it and I have been thinking that since June and not selling old crop corn since planting, might need it for blending purposes. It's also worth noting that this is the day it froze in 2004.
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Post by stockton on Aug 18, 2024 8:26:37 GMT -6
I’m going to try to cut my oats tomorrow. Did you get cutting? I’ve said this to my family 4 days in a row now. Then every morning it’s soaking wet out again and not looking like much of a drying day so I say it again. I don’t know man. I am literally sitting in my swather, engine off, head on the steering wheel typing this right now. By the time I decide we will probably just go straight cut them. lol
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Post by iamwill on Aug 18, 2024 8:41:30 GMT -6
I was guessing 30-32k plants per acre. 16 rows×42 equals 672 seeds per cob. Over the years I have found that approximately 3.3 seeds equal 1 gram, so that is 203 grams per plant. Multiply that by the number of plants per acre (30k) and you end up with 6.1 tonnes. That converts to 240bpa as the potential yield. That is at 56lbs per bu and 15.5% moisture. When counting cob length I just count to where the rows start to get uneven. Generally if the tips are uneven there are more kernels missing throughout the cob and it more or less equals out. Obviously bu weight can vary widely and wildlife damage can be extensive some years not to mention harvest losses due to weather and machine/operator issues but overall seems like a decent estimate. Should also add that our corn this year are about 14×34 on average but the stage of maturity is very uneven. We will need to be frost free until mid October to get good quality. I really doubt that will happen but it has happened before.
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Post by Oatking on Aug 18, 2024 8:48:54 GMT -6
I’m going to try to cut my oats tomorrow. Did you get cutting? I’ve said this to my family 4 days in a row now. Then every morning it’s soaking wet out again and not looking like much of a drying day so I say it again. I don’t know man. I am literally sitting in my swather, engine off, head on the steering wheel typing this right now. By the time I decide we will probably just go straight cut them. lol We are stuck in really foggy mornings with tons of dew . No few hardly all summer ! I want to try pick up oat swaths today but at 96 per humidity at 10 o clock it looks like a sleepy Sunday ! I hope we can get the guys going on the combines . We have a crazy career where we want to work so bad , but the weather is stopping us in our tracks . If your oats are flat on the ground I don’t think you need to worry about them shelling out and maybe going straight is ok . One thing about straight combing oats is you need a well operated grain cart driver to unload you in a timely fashion . With 200 plus oats on a thirty foot swath one pass to the end fills the combine tank ! That is crazy ! I did see a neighbours oat field have a few already on the ground after the big rain .
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Post by slipclutch on Aug 18, 2024 8:51:50 GMT -6
Yeah. Big fog this Morning. I Agree with you SWMan. I’m not selling what I have in bin just yet. If Manitoba gets a frost corn might just go crazy. Not 13$ crazy but 8$?
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Post by Oatking on Aug 18, 2024 9:11:06 GMT -6
Yeah. Big fog this Morning. I Agree with you SWMan. I’m not selling what I have in bin just yet. If Manitoba gets a frost corn might just go crazy. Not 13$ crazy but 8$? Ok you said the f word slipclutch ! It could happen ! Last Thursday I saw hundred of flocking white birds in my freshly cut oat field ! Never seen that before ! Usually that is an end of September thing . We had no winter and early spring so maybe an early winter us in store . Man 8 dollar corn would be awesome . We need a break in the markets to transition into next year ! At 5 dollar corn now , there must still be a decent return if you can get 175-300 bpa. Is 300 possible in Manitoba with new varieties . My garden corn is the best corn I have ever seen before . Field corn around Morris is looking huge !!!!! But I am not a corn farmer so not a custom to maturity .
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Post by Oatking on Aug 18, 2024 9:16:19 GMT -6
judging by garden corn , should be a decent crop in the fields ! corn seemed to handle the cool wet conditions in the spring really well . Maybe just lost front end heat units !
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