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Post by SWMan on Feb 14, 2024 23:07:17 GMT -6
Anyone have one? Brands to look at or avoid?
Or would some sort of pit be better?
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Post by skfarmboy on Feb 15, 2024 8:48:58 GMT -6
I like my four post lift because it does not need to be fixed to the floor and I can move it out way. It is large enough that I can put a 1 ton with duals on it. A 2 post lift is nice for tire or brake work and a 4 post is nicer for oil changes. I have a rolling bridge jack on mine if I have to remove wheels.
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Post by hardrockacres on Feb 15, 2024 9:53:39 GMT -6
It seems stable without being fixed to the floor? I have looked into those but was concerned about how they are when the vehicle is lifted to max height.
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Post by bob123 on Feb 15, 2024 10:07:15 GMT -6
We have a 2 post at my winter job, it's nice for bigger jobs like engine, transmission or exhaust work. But it's a bit of a hassle by the time you have everything nicely lined up and double check all your lift points, so for brakes, front end work or stuff like that I usually just end up going back to the floor jack because it's quicker, or a set of big home made ramps for oil changes. I could see a 4 post getting used alot more, but then being annoying for the big jobs
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Post by skfarmboy on Feb 15, 2024 12:16:24 GMT -6
It seems stable without being fixed to the floor? I have looked into those but was concerned about how they are when the vehicle is lifted to max height. Stability has not been a problem.
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Post by bobofthenorth on Feb 16, 2024 18:10:39 GMT -6
Anyone have one? Brands to look at or avoid? Or would some sort of pit be better? I've used a pit. My lift is better. I'm in Mexico so I can't be 100% sure but I'm virtually certain my 2 post is a Benwil. My understanding is that they built and labeled for various other names. Its massively overbuilt but that's OK when you're underneath a vehicle. My son gave me mine - it was a takeout from Medicine Hat High when they rebuilt the shop so it had very little use when I got it and I certainly won't ever wear it out. I've got a buddy who has a 4 post lift and I've helped him work on vehicles on his lift. There's no comparison between the usefulness of my 2 post and his 4 post. Virtually everything we do to a vehicle is at one of the corners or in the front. The front is the same 2 or 4 post but if you're working on anything wheel related on his 4 post lift there's a damn post in the way.
Something to watch when you are buying/installing. Make sure you have 102+ inches between the posts. I've got about 99" which isn't a problem except when I'd like to lift a 102" trailer. It would have been absolutely simple to widen the stance on the hoist before I installed it. It lifts using a hydraulic cylinder inside the left side post. The lift for the right side post comes from a huge roller chain which goes over the top. It would have been trivial to add a few links to the chain and weld 4" into the overhead crossmember before I installed the lift. Now -- not so much.
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Post by skfarmboy on Feb 17, 2024 20:33:19 GMT -6
Anyone have one? Brands to look at or avoid? Or would some sort of pit be better? I've used a pit. My lift is better. I'm in Mexico so I can't be 100% sure but I'm virtually certain my 2 post is a Benwil. My understanding is that they built and labeled for various other names. Its massively overbuilt but that's OK when you're underneath a vehicle. My son gave me mine - it was a takeout from Medicine Hat High when they rebuilt the shop so it had very little use when I got it and I certainly won't ever wear it out. I've got a buddy who has a 4 post lift and I've helped him work on vehicles on his lift. There's no comparison between the usefulness of my 2 post and his 4 post. Virtually everything we do to a vehicle is at one of the corners or in the front. The front is the same 2 or 4 post but if you're working on anything wheel related on his 4 post lift there's a damn post in the way.
Something to watch when you are buying/installing. Make sure you have 102+ inches between the posts. I've got about 99" which isn't a problem except when I'd like to lift a 102" trailer. It would have been absolutely simple to widen the stance on the hoist before I installed it. It lifts using a hydraulic cylinder inside the left side post. The lift for the right side post comes from a huge roller chain which goes over the top. It would have been trivial to add a few links to the chain and weld 4" into the overhead crossmember before I installed the lift. Now -- not so much.
The ramps on my 4 post lift are 220 inches long. You would have to have a vehicle with a very long wheel base before a post would be in the way for wheel work. Just drive the vehicle on the lift raise it up. Roll the bridge jack under the axle, lift the axle up. No crawling around on the floor like on a 2 post lift adjusting the lift arms before you can raise the vehicle
Just about any time I have had a vehicle on a 2 post hoist the door hits the post when I was getting in or out of the vehicle. The ramps also make a great place to put tools and small parts while working on a vehicle.
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Post by SWMan on Feb 19, 2024 0:05:53 GMT -6
skfarmboy it looks like the lift just lowers down and raises itself up on wheels to move around? Or is that something you take off once in place before using? Thanks for all the input, lots of experience here! Reason I asked about a pit was I would imagine a lift that is substantial enough to lift semis would be cost prohibitive. Nor sure how complicated a pit would be to install in a floor but it would work for anything and presumably a steel cover could be made to avoid having the hole when not in use. Low level ramps and a good creeper works for most semi related stuff though, not sure if I prefer working on my back or over my head anyways...
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Feb 19, 2024 8:22:56 GMT -6
I have an in ground single post lift that I put in when I built my shop 40 years ago, it was a real scoop at the time. It easily lifts my 3/4 ton. It has been a great help to me except for transmissions where the post and support base is in the way. I bought a 2 post above ground but I haven't installed it yet, hoping it will be better for working on the underneath things. I wouldn't have room for a 4 post so that was never a consideration. I have worked on my Peterbilt using a pit and it was good, it would certainly be the more economical choice for the heavy trucks I would think and the least dangerous, despite what OSHA would tell you!
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Post by skfarmboy on Feb 19, 2024 9:30:26 GMT -6
skfarmboy it looks like the lift just lowers down and raises itself up on wheels to move around? Or is that something you take off once in place before using? Thanks for all the input, lots of experience here! Reason I asked about a pit was I would imagine a lift that is substantial enough to lift semis would be cost prohibitive. Nor sure how complicated a pit would be to install in a floor but it would work for anything and presumably a steel cover could be made to avoid having the hole when not in use. Low level ramps and a good creeper works for most semi related stuff though, not sure if I prefer working on my back or over my head anyways... Yes, you just lower the lift and the caster assemblies raises the posts off the floor. once you get the lift positioned where you want it raise the lift up and remove the caster assemblies, just one pin at each post. It is a bear to move by yourself.
One of my neighbours has a pit with a floor that he can raise and lower, a very sweet deal.
These would be great for working on semis but lots of money.
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Post by skfarmboy on Feb 21, 2024 16:22:11 GMT -6
Changing tires on 4 post lift.
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 21, 2024 16:57:35 GMT -6
I wonder if there is enough length to both fit the truck and use the rolling lift for a crew cab long box HD truck as the wheel base would be considerably longer. What my brother has run into with a dually with a slide in camper is that lifts/alignment racks at some shops are not designed for the width nor weight of such a unit, has to be a shop that is geared up for larger trucks/motorhomes etc to deal with such a unit. I would imagine the cost would escalate many times over for a commercial beefy lift vs these more affordable lifts.
I can also see that the two post lifts that are not tall enough and have the cross over assembly would hinder how high one can lift a pickup and always the danger if not paying attention and crush the cab. A few years ago I did see a two post unit sitting in someones private shop where they had build a thick steel base for it, a cross over plate and then extensions either way from each post going with the way of the vehicle length wise. Unfortunately that leaves tripping hazards under and beside the vehicle and gone is the flat floor under the vehicle unless filler plates or plywood sheets were used but that system allowed for a two post lift to be moved and plunked anywhere and not relying on cement strength. I never had an opportunity to talk to the owner of the lift but assume somehow a skid steer was more than likely utilized to lift the unit, the place in question was for sale and the owners were going to haul out the lift.
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Post by kevlar on Feb 21, 2024 18:04:02 GMT -6
Changing tires on 4 post lift. What kind of safety stop is on that lift? Looks handy, just my shop is way too small for one.
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Post by skfarmboy on Feb 21, 2024 21:19:53 GMT -6
Changing tires on 4 post lift. What kind of safety stop is on that lift? Looks handy, just my shop is way too small for one. If you look at the second picture, you can see the rectangular cutouts on the inside of the legs. There is a safety latch that snaps into the holes. You raise the lift up to close to the height that you want and then raise or lower until the latches on the four posts pop into the cutouts and then lower the lower until the hoist is resting on the safety latches. To lower the lift you raise it up enough to take the pressure of the latches and and then you use the lever that you can see by the hydraulic pump to hold the latches from engaging as you lower the lift.
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Post by skfarmboy on Feb 22, 2024 12:21:45 GMT -6
I wonder if there is enough length to both fit the truck and use the rolling lift for a crew cab long box HD truck as the wheel base would be considerably longer. What my brother has run into with a dually with a slide in camper is that lifts/alignment racks at some shops are not designed for the width nor weight of such a unit, has to be a shop that is geared up for larger trucks/motorhomes etc to deal with such a unit. I would imagine the cost would escalate many times over for a commercial beefy lift vs these more affordable lifts.
I can also see that the two post lifts that are not tall enough and have the cross over assembly would hinder how high one can lift a pickup and always the danger if not paying attention and crush the cab. A few years ago I did see a two post unit sitting in someones private shop where they had build a thick steel base for it, a cross over plate and then extensions either way from each post going with the way of the vehicle length wise. Unfortunately that leaves tripping hazards under and beside the vehicle and gone is the flat floor under the vehicle unless filler plates or plywood sheets were used but that system allowed for a two post lift to be moved and plunked anywhere and not relying on cement strength. I never had an opportunity to talk to the owner of the lift but assume somehow a skid steer was more than likely utilized to lift the unit, the place in question was for sale and the owners were going to haul out the lift.
Here is a picture of a one ton crewcab dually on the hoist, still room to use the rolling lift at the front or back. I would not try to lift a truck with a slide in camper on it.
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