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Post by kenmb on Aug 24, 2023 6:31:25 GMT -6
I could write an essay about that first paragraph Kevlar. Large dealerships, equipment wreckers, captive markets, etc. There is lot a guy can unpack there, and a lot of change coming when guys stop trading evrry three years and go back to owning and repairing. Dealerships are too busy to work on equipment now, wait till guys start saying 7% debt is too expensive and are going to run their machines a few more years.
In the old career I was a service guy and did lots of parts sales and install. I can understand where profit margins are built in. It costs time and money to order a $110 part, write the PO, enter it, get it sent to you, bill for etc. When your labor rate is $110/hr and you spend 1.5 hours shepherding a $110 part then some costs are added in. Similarly when ordering a $150,000 transformer you don't go 22% markup or whatever. But some of this stuff is getting a little crazy. I think independent repair shops are going to do really well in the future. There are some popping up and there is good reason for that. Manufacturers like JD already know what they (JD) are doing to hold market captive and so we see things like right to repair laws being talked about. There is a lot going on, guys need to look in to the crystal ball to understand the future to really understand what is going on today.
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Post by generalchaos on Aug 27, 2023 17:54:04 GMT -6
A few years ago I went to local John Deere dealership to order a carb kit for our 1020, 3 cylinder gas tractor. The parts guy quoted me over $300. I said I would check online. Then he said āWait, Iāll check with A&Iā. Their price was $30. How can that even be possible?
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Aug 28, 2023 20:50:48 GMT -6
The idler on the L3 hydrostatic started howling, it is a double belt pulley that is riveted together with a bearing sandwiched inside, phone Ag West, guy says there is one in Brandon $180, try to phone Brandon this morning to confirm, apparently the parts people work from home and answer randomly, I had the part number from Agco online parts book, ask the girl who is working from home if this part is in stock, she says no, it is $140, plus $25 if I want next day shipping, or wait a week for it to come from Regina, or there might be one at Drummonds (didn't know they were affiliated). Phone Shoal Lake farm equipment, Dennis says don't have one, they are $130, can have it tomorrow if it is in stock in Regina (still $130). Brandon bearing can get the bearing in a week for $120!! Then I would weld the pulley back together. It is an hour to drive to Ag West in Brandon and find out they messed something or other up, or it is an hour to Shoal Lake, and I guarantee if they say they have it there will not be any hassle. Also Ag West wants advance payment if I order anything, only place I have run into that before. Ag West or SLFE? Not a tough choice at all.
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Post by kenmb on Sept 5, 2023 8:07:03 GMT -6
Thinks the parts guy made a mistake on a parts run I sent wife on. New serpentine belt for Cummins 8.3l in 2388 was $25.88, new tensioner $155. The belt description on bill says "v belt" so guessing they got something wrong, but didn't mind the tensioner price. Old tensioner seemed fine but figured change it anyway.
And the serpentine belt says "made in China". First belt of any kind I have seen with those words. Oh well, combine running normal temp again.
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Post by CTS2 on Sept 5, 2023 14:37:24 GMT -6
Thinks the parts guy made a mistake on a parts run I sent wife on. New serpentine belt for Cummins 8.3l in 2388 was $25.88, new tensioner $155. The belt description on bill says "v belt" so guessing they got something wrong, but didn't mind the tensioner price. Old tensioner seemed fine but figured change it anyway. And the serpentine belt says "made in China". First belt of any kind I have seen with those words. Oh well, combine running normal temp again. If it's the type of serpentine tensioner that I am picturing you can replace the bearings in the pulley for just a few dollars. Two of 6203 or similar.
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Post by kevlar on Sept 5, 2023 22:02:41 GMT -6
$700 š at least it seemed to solve our problem. Combine was acting up, would derate sometimes if you worked it too hard, have to shut down and restart. Dealer was out a couple times and couldnāt figure it out, said it was getting a spike in fuel pressure, find it hard to believe that their computer couldnāt pinpoint the problem, he was thinking of starting with injectors, then maybe fuel pump. I asked if there was a sensor, he said yes, so I said thatās where weāll start. Changed it ourselves and it ran today with no issues. How come my old 95 Kenworth they can tell what injector is only running at 80% and at what rpm, but on a half million dollar combine with a $20,000 computer program canāt even tell you if the injectors are good or not? Iām starting to question these companies practices. Do they teach the mechanics at school to start with the highest priced repair first?
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Post by meskie on Sept 5, 2023 23:31:03 GMT -6
Problem is they donāt teach them anythingā¦. And if the computer doesnāt tell them the problem they are stumped.
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Post by garyfunk on Sept 6, 2023 7:32:34 GMT -6
I think they added a zero to that sensor price, š.
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Post by hardrockacres on Sept 6, 2023 8:07:07 GMT -6
NH LHS Rotor gearbox was quoted ~3800 complete....that actually seems like a deal based on what other smaller components cost. Don't ask why I asked the price, but we took it out last night and it looks like it just needs to be rebearinged and have the gear lash/bearing preload set. Likely find out the 3 bearing are $500 each lol.
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Post by kenmb on Sept 6, 2023 9:01:31 GMT -6
Threads like these really discourage thoughts of a combine upgrade, especially whan a machine is working fine year after year.
I didn't look at the tensioner CTS2, still on the bench. My concern was perhaps the spring was weak allowing some belt slippage though it seemed ok. My idea of ok and what is factory could be noticeably different so I swapped it out. Belt grooves were definitely wore, tensioner seemed fine compared to new one.
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Post by hardrockacres on Sept 6, 2023 10:00:01 GMT -6
Well I was surprised to find out the bearings and seals comes to $800 total, and the dealer has in stock. Might get this unit back in the field today yet.
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Post by meskie on Sept 6, 2023 10:27:44 GMT -6
Well I was surprised to find out the bearings and seals comes to $800 total, and the dealer has in stock. Might get this unit back in the field today yet. I rebearinged our TR98 gearbox a few (lot) of years ago in a couple hours. The R&R took longer.
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Post by iamwill on Sept 6, 2023 11:34:04 GMT -6
Dad went to napa for an oil filter for his new ecodiesel, not available. Went to the dealer $114. Went to another outfit and they can order them, $65 and wait a week. What I would like to know is wtf was wrong with the $6 spin on metal filter and what is so amazing about the new plastic pos they use now!!!!!! We will all be long dead before they give us an answer that isn't total bs.
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Post by hardrockacres on Sept 6, 2023 12:16:21 GMT -6
Well I was surprised to find out the bearings and seals comes to $800 total, and the dealer has in stock. Might get this unit back in the field today yet. I rebearinged our TR98 gearbox a few (lot) of years ago in a couple hours. The R&R took longer. Actually the removal wasn't too bad for never having one out before...but it is really heavy to lift down by hand. I am sure the installation will be a bit time consuming getting it back up there and aligning the shaft tot he rotor. Plan on using a couple ratchet straps connected to the motor frame to help a bit.
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Sept 21, 2023 22:42:58 GMT -6
Priced out a full bin sensor for the TR96, $637 š£
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