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Post by Oatking on Feb 11, 2024 13:28:22 GMT -6
The 4th generation ram is still my favorite truck for best bang for your buck . The ride is superior to Chevy or ford . What I mean is , road noise is almost nil. My new Chevy is a lot noisier on the highway . Also the Ram infotainment is all that of Chevy or ford even though it’s almost 15 years old or more. 5.7 is a gas guzzler . Maybe try the v6 penstar engine if you’re not pulling anything . I like the knob shifter and never had any service needed on my rams . I already need my def looked at on my diesel . I can’t complain about the feul mileage on my diesel. 32-35 is common and up to 45 on highway with a wind .
I like the 4th gen Ram because it is simple and has all the creature comforts you want on a pick up . I like the classic grill as opposed to the warlock grill. But that is preference . Also Ram is flooded with 2023 rams now so you will get a great deal on a new truck now . Diff , I think they come in 3.55 . I had 3.92 . I don’t think that help my feul mileage but helped pulling nh3 tanks.
Honestly I owned three rams and I can’t complain about anything on them ! Good solid truck and good value . Let’s not get into the problems 10 or more years down the road . Everything wears out !
Things I don’t like about my Chevy Auto high beams Def sensor Takes a speciality oil most oil change stations don’t carry Touch button tail gate Trailer sensors Road noise No mirror signal light Infotainment screen is a waste of space Rough ride No navigation unless you use google
Things I like Starts great in the cold Great fuel milage Good seats and interior Exterior looks awesome Rear view camera
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Post by meskie on Feb 11, 2024 16:19:25 GMT -6
I would most likely buy a GMC 2500 SLT duramax crew cab with the 6’10” box. Heated and cooled leather seats no sunroof cause I never use them. Would get without sliding rear window if I could. Would likely order it in thunderstorm grey also. you can take the hotspot off your phone and use the built in nav or use CarPlay and use the map from your phone. Either google or Apple Maps. Auto highbeams is a switch to turn them off. I’ve never drove any brand that has it has worked good. my truck has adaptive cruise on it but doesn’t work at night. It slams on the brakes as your meeting a vehicle.
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Post by meskie on Feb 11, 2024 18:01:13 GMT -6
For a general run around vehicle I’d get a 1/2 if you are wanting a truck. They ride much better and are easier to maneuver around parking lots. All the brands are pretty good these days so go with the best deal or the dealer you like the most. I pull a cattle trailer with my truck so wanted the 2500.
My brother has a 1500 gmc with the baby duramax in it and it gets really good mileage on the highway. 8-9L/100 is easy to do.
As for trim level it’s all personal choice for what options you want. I ordered so I got what I wanted otherwise it seems like they were just getting the high optioned trucks in. Make better money on them probably. I was 10-15k less cause I didn’t use or want a lot of the options in the top of the line trucks.
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Post by CTS2 on Feb 12, 2024 5:32:30 GMT -6
Why haven't Toyota Landcruisers ever taken off in North America?
They are used in the hardest possible environments everywhere else in the world.
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Post by Oatking on Feb 12, 2024 7:37:33 GMT -6
thanks meskie , I will find out how to switch the auto high beam off as well. I have the same problem with adaptive cruise . Its a great option but does slow you down sometimes if you are passing someone on a curve.
I have a similar truck as you in the picture.
I only had the def problem in minus 30c weather for a few days. It has not popped back up again.
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Feb 12, 2024 8:08:59 GMT -6
Why haven't Toyota Landcruisers ever taken off in North America? They are used in the hardest possible environments everywhere else in the world. That is very true, the diesels in Australia were everywhere and they were simple, reliable and economical on fuel. We have a 1984 Toyota pickup (22R gas) and we can do 80% of our pickup requirements with it and it gets over 30 mpg on average. I think Toyota made a mistake by going away from the little trucks. I also wonder why we don't have anything like the Japanese mini trucks here, they are a small simple truck that can be set up many ways, with a small fuel efficient engine. I would think they would be a lot cheaper to buy as well.
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Post by meskie on Feb 12, 2024 9:16:00 GMT -6
thaks meskie , I will find out how to switch the auto high beam off as well. End of the signal lever should be the button
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 12, 2024 13:15:43 GMT -6
I hear you on the more nimble nature as well as ride with a 1/2 ton and better fuel mileage due to being a lighter pickup. While it may be an unfair blanket statement to say but I get the impression some of the 1/2 ton trucks struggle with much weight as per the rear end sinking down and typically the crew cab 4x4 half tons do not have a very good payload number. Turn to the HD pickups of whichever brand and away goes the ride and worse in some brands than others but I have not been in the latest versions of them to get a feel for their rides. Gas or Diesel, each comes with its good and bad and if it wasn't for all the pollution shit they put on the diesel these days it would make them even more popular as that has caused some buyers to turn back to gas trucks. Sadly too many of the gas engines have had some major reliability issues as per bad lifters in the GM 5.3 and 6.2 and seems Ram has also had its share of the similar theme, now with Ford in the 7.3 gas.
The question is, do some of you rely on warranty and trading before that runs out and play that game vs being saddled with the expense of major diesel fuel system issues or lifter issues in the gas trucks or the expensive transmissions crapping out. Or do you intend on keeping it for the long term and deal with the issues each truck has.
Meskie, without a doubt the dealers are being pushed to sell the high end pickups or at least some brands are. You mentioned sunroof, all I ever hear when I hear anything about sunroofs is issues, the glass breaking or leaking into the cab between the layers and causing damage and I have no practical use for one. The rear sliding window, I imagine that just obstructs view as well as potential leaks or wind noise and crappy to clean with a squeegee I am speculating and yet with GM it seems as soon as you try and choose any options in the cab they throw that darned thing into the package. Thankfully the auto running boards seem to be an item one can bypass for the most part as all I see is issues with something like that in my mind anyway. Bumpers, they sure want to push painted bumpers these days and after seeing my brother deal with someone backing into his truck and in that case that person actually paid my brother directly to avoid using his insurance but the rear bumper was insanely expensive as they do not come pre painted, a body shop had to paint it and they also chip easily from what I have seen. From a practical stand point I still think a chrome bumper is better. Wheel size, that's another one that GM anyway pushes one to larger rims if in a higher trim level or if choosing items unrelated to what wheel size it has and go and throw in larger wheels. I know the larger wheel size tires are more expensive and the sidewall lower and to me I would assume ride rougher if anything. If only the options could be chosen one by one and not forced into getting what you don't want so that you can get what you do want.
Is there anyone with some Ford leaning thoughts over other brands ?
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Post by meskie on Feb 12, 2024 14:01:21 GMT -6
The 1/2 tons with max payload packages actually have pretty decent payload numbers but then they have a lower rear end and mileage goes down. When comparing my 2500 diesel to some others 1500 gas trucks the mileage isn’t much different. When towing the bigger truck gets better mileage. For rough roads like most farmers drive on the 3/4 ton trucks are going to last much longer with bigger brakes and a heavier front end. A 3/4 ton with 200,000km on it is going to be worth a lot more then a 1/2 ton with the same mileage.
18” rims are standard on the Gm trucks last couple trucks I had came with 20”. Ride wasn’t any different from what I could tell. Tires are cheaper for the 18”.
My 2016 truck I found it didn’t have a sliding rear window and looking out the back to hook up to our cattle trailer was far easier than my dads of the same body style with the slider. I’m on my third truck with a sliding rear window and have yet to open it. Talking to the sales guys and for used trucks the number one selling feature people ask for is a sunroof.
Talking to a few different dealers and reading online and lots of guys are going back to chrome bumpers because of how easy the painted ones chip. You can spend a couple grand and get the 3m film put on them to protect them but I would rather save money
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Post by northernfarmer on Feb 12, 2024 15:57:29 GMT -6
I am not surprised at your findings of the heavy diesel truck doing as well as the light duty gas trucks fuel wise empty and actually doing better when pulling a load, never mind the fact that the 1/2 ton segment gas engines are not designed to pull heavy constantly and I get the idea their cooling system is lacking also.
Interesting that there didn't seem to be a noticeable difference in ride between the two tire/rim sizes, then again tire pressure carried is a big factor.
I do like the fact that on average anyway, the HD brands of trucks sit up higher and in theory can fit under the truck to service it where as certainly some of the GM 1/2 trucks are low, definitely with running boards.
Surprises me that a sunroof is that important to buyers, perhaps its the light falling down on them or they are smokers and like sun roofs and rear sliding windows open to get the stench out ( yes that would make me a non smoker ).
Painted bumper, well I guess I am not the only one that has figured out it can be nice to look at off the show room floor and as long as its clean but in use and gravel road driving etc, not so nice.
Back to the topic of payload and gearing options, for whatever reason in the last few years and certainly within the last year GM has done something that is completely retarded in my mind in the world of 4x4's . Truck buyers have literally driven off the show room floor "assuming" of course their 1/2 ton GM has high and low range ... GM always used to have that. Well some buyers never caught that the truck they bought had no low range, high range only but with the 4 auto engage system and a traction control system setting but no low range. But that is only part of the picture as most of the trim levels will not allow the two speed transfer case to be mated to the max tow package. So if you want the max spring payload and tow package and the lower gearing ( 3.73 vs the 3.23 in the case of the 3.0 diesel ), they don't let you get the two speed transfer case. I haven't determined if they might package the two together with a high country or denali for the current model year as they don't say one way or the other on the websites but any lower trim levels don't seem to allow it currently, but they used to ... not sure what gives. One factor in all of the 1/2 ton and lower segment is that they have to meet some over all fuel mileage goal as far as I know, where as the HD trucks don't have to meet anything in that regard that I am aware of.
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Post by meskie on Feb 12, 2024 19:28:49 GMT -6
How often do you guys use 4 low? Only time i remember using it was in my old 88’ gmc with a standard when i was moving a trailer around or trying to move into a tight spot with it. My thinking is people didn’t know how to use it correctly and were tearing up the truck causing warranty claims for the company.
Not sure the HD trucks have any higher ground clearance on them. I don’t fit under mine with a creeper without driving it up on ramps.
Sunroof was always thought to be in only the high end vehicles and i think that is stuck in peoples mind. Must be a luxury vehicle if its got a sunroof. The one salesman says he doesn’t like driving around with the AC on so he loves being able to open to sunroof and rear window in the summer driving around town.
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Post by kevlar on Feb 12, 2024 19:58:44 GMT -6
My truck has the sliding rear window and I love it, I like fresh air in the cab, actually miss the vents that they used to put down by your feet, yes the ones that would blow the dust from the floor all over the place for a couple minutes 😂. Only problem with the rear window is if I have the slip tank in it sucks the diesel smell in.
I have used 4 low a few times when moving the camper around in a little more rugged places and a couple times pulling out another vehicle.
Mine is just a half ton Ford with the 5.0, it likes it’s gas but it does have decent power, and has the limited slip rear differential. Has leather seats but I hate them, they kill my back for some reason so my wife got me a cushion and that helps. It has the centre console and I wouldn’t get that again, kind of a waste of space and isn’t very handy when carrying a gun in the truck.
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Post by meskie on Feb 12, 2024 20:33:54 GMT -6
My regular cab truck has the sliding rear window and was great for putting a cooler in the box to grab a drink if needed…..
In high school we used 5 gallon pails filled with ice cops never looked inside the pails of a farm truck.
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Post by kevlar on Feb 12, 2024 21:20:20 GMT -6
Had a friend in high school that had a Dodge’Lil Red Express truck, could hold a full 12 pack in the passenger side floor vent, cops never checked there. Not sure how he didn’t get pulled over more, it had the stacks that were burnt out so basically straight pipes, he would floor it going down Main Street, shut it off for a few seconds, then turn the key back on and it would backfire and shoot flames out of the stacks. That was an awesome truck and he completely destroyed it.
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Post by bob123 on Feb 12, 2024 22:41:08 GMT -6
I've always been a Chevy guy but I bought an f150 this time for the aluminum body. Seems like vehicles are just a hole to dump money down but at least this way at least it still looks good, always felt stupid dumping money into a rusted out pile. See 5 year old Chevy's with rust bubbles and that would make me sick. I have really come to like the ford super crew cab as well, it has 6 actually comfy seats, or can fit a ton of stuff in the back that can stay locked up and dust free with the seats up. I actually don't use the box much with this truck other then for oily stuff because how much fits inside.
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