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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 19, 2024 18:08:39 GMT -6
You guys put a lot more effort into your tire purchases than I do!! lol. I usually go to the tire shop and ask what they recommend, they generally have a good idea on what would work best for you. Ironically you may end up with the same tire we do ... we just take the long way around to get to the same point you did or put another way, your like the guy who lives close to school and gets picked up last to go to school and gets dropped off first ! LOL. The internet never used to exist so it was to the tire stores and looking at what was available and talk to the sales rep, or have read something fantastic about a tire in an article in a four wheel drive magazine. But take now, I had looked online at some tire listings and then tried to dig up some reviews and video etc but ultimately I went to the tire store I expect I would probably buy tires from and named off a few tires I was thinking of and explained the planned use for the tire with mostly gravel and mud, and very little winter use. He said this was in his mind a good choice ( there are only so many choices with this size anyway ) as he has guys running this same tread in the oil patch on the typical gravel roads and said it was working well for them and I said yup, order them. I ordered them yesterday and they came in today, he seems to be able to order tires and get them in fast most of the time unlike some tire shops.
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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 19, 2024 18:40:58 GMT -6
Here are a couple of photos of the tires I just put on that farm pickup, they remind me of a smaller scale of a course highway tractor drive tire. While it was tempting to go find some mud, I don't feel like making ruts anywhere nor get the truck stuck and have no interest in washing it after the ordeal. I took it down the gravel and the odd item did fly off the tires but more so on the soft sticky edge of the road and on the short drive on the highway all I heard was wind and engine noise, no tire howling at all but then I really would not have cared anyway given how few times it goes anywhere on a highway. The ride, oh its utterly fantastic, just like sitting on a cement park bench which is no different then with other tires I have used on it as its not a great riding truck and only have 35 psi in the front and 40 in the rear. They are a stiff heavy tire for their size and that is to be expected. By the way the tires these ones are leaning up against is a set of Falken Wildpeak AT3W for another vehicle as a comparison.
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Post by SWMan on Mar 19, 2024 22:01:27 GMT -6
There are several variants of both the geolander and the dueler tires, pretty much every part of the tread spectrum there. Which ones are you guys talking about?
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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 19, 2024 22:15:18 GMT -6
On that note, I’d never get Hankook again, rough ride. Tread wear and traction is good but I’ve had two sets now that where the tread meets the sidewall starts to let go. That reminds me of a retired couple I know who was up here visiting a few years ago and they had an older GM duramax pickup single rear wheel with a slide in camper and it would have been plenty heavy for the truck but it seemed to carry it ok. So after they left they took a detour to Kinuseo falls which is near Tumbler Ridge in BC. Its a solid but rough gravel road because of a lot of potholes on the roads surface, its not the mushy soft gravel road that I think a lot of us on here are used to when wet. So they head on down that road and it dead ends at the falls and its a fair ways away from anything help wise, Tumbler Ridge is the closest town which is about 65 km away from the falls. He had 10 ply Hankook tires on the truck with reasonable tread left. Getting closer to the falls they have a flat on one of the rear tires and just shredded the tire as either he didn't notice or it leaked and got dangerously low and then fell apart. So they struggle to put on the spare and go the rest of the ways to the falls. They stay there overnight and the next day are driving out of there and part way out the other rear tire completely fails which had been a match to the one that failed the day before. They are screwed, there is NO cell service out there unless one had a Sat phone. A trucker comes along that was doing something down that road and picks them up and gives them a ride into town. They went to the one and only tire/shop in town and fluked off as the guy had some tires on wheels that would fit and took them out there with his tow/service truck and put on the wheels to get it back to the town and then took those or some other tires to put on the factory pickup wheels to get them going again. So that stuck in my head, Hankook tires and two failed tires. I will never know if it was partly the tires fault or more a factor of the person behind the wheel as I got the idea he was driving way too fast for that road and with all that weight of the camper the tires could not handle hitting sharp edged holes.
Like you said Kevlar, to have two sets of a tire do the same thing and if you've had other tires of equal specs on the same or similar weighted vehicle and not had that problem, that sure points to a design flaw.
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Post by jaymo on Mar 20, 2024 8:42:07 GMT -6
There are several variants of both the geolander and the dueler tires, pretty much every part of the tread spectrum there. Which ones are you guys talking about? tire.yokohama.ca/tires/geolandar-h-t-g056These are the tires I put on my f-150. 275/60/R20 They are not much to look at, that's for sure, but so far I like them. The one thing I really don't like about the more aggressive M/S tires is the way they pick up stones on gravel. The wider the tread the bigger the stones you are hurling around and under your vehicle, is my experience.
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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 20, 2024 9:27:11 GMT -6
tire.yokohama.ca/tires/geolandar-h-t-g056These are the tires I put on my f-150. 275/60/R20 They are not much to look at, that's for sure, but so far I like them. The one thing I really don't like about the more aggressive M/S tires is the way they pick up stones on gravel. The wider the tread the bigger the stones you are hurling around and under your vehicle, is my experience. Oh, I was not expecting that tire and they certainly fit the true all season car/suv theme and from the chart it looks to be a P rated size ?. Definitely a better ride in theory over a high ply type LT tire, I wonder how they stand up to gravel over the long haul. No idea how much distance SWMan has to travel on gravel but at least would not be dependent on them for winter use given he mentioned using dedicated winter tires on the vehicle in question.
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Post by willyboy on Mar 20, 2024 9:31:41 GMT -6
Just put a set of Toyo Open Country A/T III Size: LT285/60R20 on one of my pickups and they were $1980 for a set of 4 installed. Good reviews on the Toyo tires. I've had mixed luck with Cooper tires and this particular truck had Firestone Transforce AT2 previously that I hated as they were horrible for traction. Anyone have any recommendations for a durable tire for a suburban that isn't too aggressive? Winter tires are coming off and I've had bad luck with both General and Cooper all season tires on that vehicle, wear fast and casing problems. I almost think I need to put a LT rated tire on, just don't want gravel flying everywhere. We just put a set of 275/55R20 Michelin Defender LTX on our Suburban before Christmas. They were $1575 installed before taxes and after a $70 rebate that they had on them at the time. This is the first set of Michelin's I've tried so we will see in a year or two. We drive about 5 miles of gravel to get to town. So far I've been happy with them. Not sure if warranty means anything or if they will actually do anything down the road but Michelin's looked pretty decent for coverage.I think some of this comes down to the tire shop. My uncle has always ran Michelin's and when he asked the local tire shop about warranty the owner just brushed him off saying they won't do anything because of gravel. Next time he went to Costco he questioned the manager at the tire centre there about gravel and warranty. Said the guy just looked at him and said "well we live in Saskatchewan". He now buys his tires at Costco. Northern Farmer, Kinuseo Falls brings back memories. Never did go look at it but spent a number of years working between Dawson and Tumbler Ridge and remember seeing the sign for it often.
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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 20, 2024 10:15:42 GMT -6
Speaking of Costco a couple of items come to mind. One was that quite a few years ago Costco had a tire with I believe the Kirkland name on it and they had this wonderful wear out warranty on it, if it wore out prematurely they would install a new set for nothing. Well that only flew for a few years and they put an end to that, Peace Country gravel roads in every direction ( like a lot of rural western Canada ) so guys were melting off their tires and coming in for new ones, it was a great deal !. One of my friends down the road did just that, and yes they threw on a new set because the reality was that the tire could not handle gravel any better than anything else.
The other item which may apply to a lot of tire shops but certainly to Costco, if you bring in the rims only to get tires put on, they do not warranty anything or at least not mileage because they did not confirm the mileage on the vehicle. Like this week, I brought in the old tires/rims of the truck that sat here with one flat tire to the tire shop to install the new tires and I honestly don't know if that would disqualify me for some unforeseen warranty issue or not. Given that he is more of an independent shop in a sense, the owner is behind the counter running the show so I suspect he would do right by the customer as much as he can vs a corporate big chain store would probably handle things differently.
That is some 13 years ago or so I took a drive out there in late May ( just had finished seeding ) to Kinuseo falls and in fact was driving my g/f's crappy dodge suv two wheel drive unit and I drove as I knew it would not be a steering wheel holder road and it certainly was not. It reminded me more of pavement with sharp edged potholes everywhere and I took it very easy and had no issues at all, certainly could have if I drove like a clueless person on a road condition like that. Its a very interesting falls and of course was flowing very nicely in the spring. A guy that grew up in this same area and went to the same school, he lives out in Tumbler and runs a river boat tour trip up the river to the base of the falls, my brother took that tour some years back and said it was quite interesting. Definitely love the Rockies and the landscapes they provide both in Canada and the USA.
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Post by kevlar on Mar 20, 2024 10:57:49 GMT -6
Honestly I wouldn’t make a tire purchase based on warranty, unless it completely self destructed on the way home I have a hard time thinking you would get much in the way of warranty, maybe a small percentage off the next purchase, probably get more from the tire shop itself than the actual manufacturer. There’s just too many variables that a tire has to deal with that they can just say it’s something that caused the problem, not the tire itself. Had a combine tire get a big bulge on the face of the tire, was supposed to have warranty, all they said was we must have run over a rock, end of discussion. No warranty. That was Trelbourg.
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Post by northernfarmer on Mar 20, 2024 16:42:49 GMT -6
I tried looking up some warranty info on a couple of tire shops websites and some generic typical tire warranty themes, not that this is how all tire companies nor if one "pays for a warranty" would work but the theme tended to be from a failure within 30 days of purchase or a one year warranty as long as only 2/32 were worn off or no more than 12000 km driven and NO GRAVEL driving ... yeah. So a whole lot of whatever with a typical warranty and all a person could do is talk to the tire shop and see what they would do for a guy. And again that is where all this online horse shit of ordering tires through Amazon or whatever online tire company and then getting a certain tire shop to mount them that gets throw a few dollars, when things go sideways with that your SOL as far as I am concerned and I see videos of guys whining about how they got hung out to dry because the tire or tires had a manufacturing defect and no one would do anything for them. So just supporting the local shops that are there to help you when you need it gives a guy return when one gets in a bind and I think most farmers do that.
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Post by northernfarmer on Apr 3, 2024 19:54:10 GMT -6
I think some of you will find this video interesting, it takes a while to finally come around to the point of when to change engine oil vs what vehicle manufactures these days tout ( and why they push for long change intervals on cars and pickups ) but gives some interesting facts along the way and yes it comes down to sending oil samples out to really know what condition the oil is in as there is no simple answer other than change it more often then the manufacture claims you can these days. I stumbled across Lake Speed a year ago I think, interesting guy without a doubt.
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Post by iamwill on Apr 3, 2024 22:01:52 GMT -6
So my 2011 chevy transmission gave up again for the third time in 230 some thousand km. Just spent $4500 on the engine last fall because of a bad head gasket due to a dowl pin that was pushed up into the head allowing it to move around. Pretty sure we have spent more money fixing this truck than it cost us brand new. Anyway way looking for something else as I am done with it. Tired of fixing the pos. Not looking for anything new but not sure what to do. Anyone take a mid 90s truck and rebuild it and been happy with it? Had enough of this new overly complicated junk for now.
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Post by meskie on Apr 3, 2024 22:05:27 GMT -6
I’m guessing it’s a 4L80E transmission giving you grief? Mid ninety’s trucks didn’t have great transmissions in them either. Didn’t matter the brand
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Post by Oatking on Apr 4, 2024 6:04:16 GMT -6
Yes , those 90s gmc transmissions were known to give problems . How many kms on your truck northern farmer . I actually have a 93 Chevy in my farm yard that needs a torque converter . I left that project on hold . It’s actually my dad’s old farm truck . Not sure it’s worth fixing a 2000 dollar truck ! That must be frustrating when the repair bills start adding up .
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Post by hardrockacres on Apr 4, 2024 6:56:59 GMT -6
Have 532 thousand km and change on my "farm Truck" which is a '94 chev with auto OD trans. Never have ahad an issue with it yet, although I did do a fluid flush about 150 thosand km ago. Now this truck never tows anything and just takes me to work and back and the daily running around on the farm. religiously put minimum of 500km on it each week. This is also a 350 gasser, doesnt burn any more than 1/2 Litre of oil between changes. Now it is getting tired as it has no power although I never though it had any power when new. I know the trans was a weak point with these, but if you used them properly they will work ok. Towing heavy loads where they are constantly shifting in and out of OD will have you sitting on the side of the road in no time.
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