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Post by OptimallyDismal on Jun 20, 2022 22:48:45 GMT -6
My biggest seeding mistake this year was seeding. HaHa, was going to say the same thing, finished canola today, I must be nuts, but I am chasing the anhydrous investment. seeding in a cloud of dust while the tires are spinning in mud, very strange. I put marks in the seed hopper for each bag of canola to 5 bags as well, so not as much guessing. Ran out of seed once as well, need cameras. Now to get hail insurance, might be a good year for it.
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Post by kevlar on Jun 21, 2022 7:59:56 GMT -6
Speaking of hail insurance, how do they do coverage if day only half of the field comes up? I doubt they would pay out on acres that have nothing? I guess I should give someone a call to find out for sure. We’ve had hail 3 times now, nothing major, but it all came when it was too cold for hail so might be a problem ( or a saving grace) when it actually warms up.
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Post by meskie on Jun 21, 2022 9:29:09 GMT -6
2001 we had a terrible crop and got hail. The wrote the crop off as it didn’t take much to get 100% damage when there was only a few heads here and there.
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Post by kevlar on Jun 21, 2022 9:58:32 GMT -6
Was that a thin crop all over? My concern is that just for example, say 50% of the crop is completely gone, nothing in the low spots or runs, just the hills grow, if it hails and they come to adjust it, will they just cover the 50% that grew on the hills even after you paid for coverage on all the acres? I’ve always been happy with our hail insurance, it’s not through MASC, but it could be one of those years where all insurance companies are pulling tricks out of their back pockets. Have a friend who had a bin blow over in the last blizzard, just had an auger blow over in the last storm, and found some dead cows that had been killed by lightning. He said already it’s becoming a fight to get the bin settled. Feel bad for him, sure getting hit hard.
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Post by meskie on Jun 21, 2022 11:11:51 GMT -6
Thin all over. I think they assessed it at 8-10bu/acre. It was 250 acre field that got hit. If there is only one plant on the hill and it gets hit that’s 100% loss.
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Post by SWMan on Jun 21, 2022 11:35:16 GMT -6
If there is only one plant on the hill and it gets hit that’s 100% loss. This may be the scenario where the farmer and adjuster can agree! I thought seeding went pretty well this year, except for one hose pulling out of boot but still flowing on the blockage sensor. The way it was tucked in there it took a couple fields to notice it. Had a hose wear through under the manifold so part of the seed was spraying downward and it would appear that it all grew. My biggest frustration is rolled fields that are prone to blowing. This year I waited until my peas were almost up to roll them and once up I was hoping that I was out of the woods, but on Saturday the hurricane wind messed up a few hills and headlands. Hoping it comes back but the 28C on Sunday didn't really help. Anybody roll peas after they are up? I have done soybeans before but it is a narrow window and weather can mess it up.
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Post by victory on Jun 21, 2022 11:47:11 GMT -6
Guys out our way used to roll peas quite often after they came up. You want to wait until they are a bit established. Don't hit them as soon as they are out of the ground. Obviously don't want to do it when they are 6" tall either. Everybody seems to roll them before emergence now.
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Post by Mags on Jun 21, 2022 17:01:52 GMT -6
Guys out our way used to roll peas quite often after they came up. You want to wait until they are a bit established. Don't hit them as soon as they are out of the ground. Obviously don't want to do it when they are 6" tall either. Everybody seems to roll them before emergence now. I’ve noticed this as well. Guys used to roll peas after out of ground 3-4” tall. Now the majority of the guys the roller follows the drill in peas and cereals in our area. The bigger farms anyway. I don’t grow peas. I roll rocky fields when in cereals at 3-4 leaf. I don’t roll after seeding as my rocky fields are very hilly and worried about erosion (typically a high rain area).
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Post by kevlar on Jun 21, 2022 17:32:04 GMT -6
We don’t grow peas but noticed most guys go in with the roller as soon as they can. I asked a neighbour the other day when he does his, said he used to let them come up before rolling but now does it right away, he never said why. Was just talking to him about it because we were talking about his hired man that did a few rounds on our freshly sown barley field, got into the wrong field because there is no fenceline between us! I would think guys do it as soon as they can just in case the weather doesn’t cooperate and they can’t get it done at all.
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Post by kenmb on Jun 22, 2022 7:14:39 GMT -6
Used to roll when they were a few inches tall. This was from necessity. We rented/borrowed a roller much like most other guys of the time so you waited in line till it was available, when you got your hands on it you did your field. Crop stage was irrelevant in this situation, it was equipment availability.
Dad bought a roller about 12 years ago so that took care of the one issue. And so I roll as soon as I can. It seals the moisture in that much better and dirt moves easier than after say a 1/2" rain so mole hills for example get leveled off a bit better if rolled soon vs later.
As for crop insurance, there is a decision early on to make. The establishment benefit pays you to reseed, or you can take the payment and not reseed in which case you wave any future claims through crop insurance (hail insurance being seperate) . Went through this with those dry years last couple years with no rain till late June. I let things go and eventually flax came up well except for some Sandy areas two years ago. Had about 30 acres out of 300 that didn't grow and what that did was factor into to my guaranteed yield. I ended up with more bushels than guaranteed so no pay out. If that field got hail, and I had one plant per 10 square ft and that plant was damaged then 100% hail. Hail insurance would dovetail into establishment component of crop insurance so when you look at those two components as a whole you kind of see how it works and some situations are rather rare. If a crop really is that sparse most guys would have reseeded so that removes discussion as to what happens if a thin crop got hail.
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Post by Oatking on Jun 22, 2022 14:32:00 GMT -6
2001 we had a terrible crop and got hail. The wrote the crop off as it didn’t take much to get 100% damage when there was only a few heads here and there. Dont try that with the WOLVES in Headingley MB. Seriously that is the father and son teams last name at my masc office. They are ex farmers who could not make it on there own so they decided to take a provincial government job. Hate dealing with them, and was not impressed when masc closed down the old Altona office and moved me to the Headingley office. Hoping this year not to deal with them. The weeds are growing in warp speed as well on our flooded land. What a 360 reversal of last year! I see the down ward tumble in canola futures must mean a huge bumper crop in western Canada. Would that assumption be right. Man if a guy took a put out at 25 bucks a bushel three weeks ago , you could sure bank some easy cash. Based on the soybeans price , my market advisor says beans are slightly bullish and a guy should be buying a short dated put ahead of the usda planting report. Personally, I thought of buying a put instead. Sold a bunch of beans for over 19 bucks last week off the combine and was wondering what the down side risk is. Could beans drop 6 or 7 bucks a bushel from here to harvest. Maybe cpt USA could expand on the condition of the Iowa corn and bean crop.
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