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Post by cptusa on Dec 7, 2021 17:15:51 GMT -6
Still have not been able to replace my Magnum that turned itself into a raging inferno and subsequent scrap metal.
Local dealer has a loaded up MF 8737s on order to be delivered in February. They are coming at me with what I'm calling a exceptionally aggressive price to get me into one of these.
I've never even sat in the cab of one of these, going to see one tomorrow. Has anyone been in one, around one, own one,etc?
The offer they are shooting me definitely has my attention.
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Post by kevlar on Dec 7, 2021 17:40:45 GMT -6
Wow!! Who do you have for insurance?? Must pay better than my insurance company ever does!! lol. Not sure about that model, but had a neighbour who used to run Massey tractors, switched to Deere because he was sick of the constant electrical gremlins. This was about 5-6 years ago. It sounds like Massey seems to be plagued with electrical issues with some models for some reason.
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Post by cptusa on Dec 7, 2021 19:19:14 GMT -6
Whoa!!!!
I never said the insurance was going to cover the full amount. Haven't even fought that battle yet. All I know is I need a tractor.
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Post by Oatking on Dec 7, 2021 19:32:13 GMT -6
Looks like a nice tractor. Its a plus since you have a dealer close by. Quickly looked at some on market book and the right controls and monitors would take a little of playing around to get used to compared to deere or case. 340-370 horse power.
Would you ever consider a front end three point hitch?
Would Versatile be an option? and do you have any local versatile dealers? Check what the overall weight of the tractor is. If you can get a deal with such poor inventory now on most dealer lots that is a big plus!
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Post by cptusa on Dec 7, 2021 20:38:51 GMT -6
No Versy dealers close that I'm aware of.
No interest in a front 3 point.
I consider this deal exceptionally aggressive if it comes through I'll let you guys know what went down.
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Post by SWMan on Dec 7, 2021 21:34:28 GMT -6
The electrical issues are more in the past than present. I think after AGCO bought Fendt they began integrating many of their features and quality controls. One thing Fendt has held back on is the controls for that transmission unfortunately. My opinion is that if you can make sense of the C1/C2 buttons and dials you will love the rest of the tractor. The powertrain is second to none though. I have a Challenger that's one frame size smaller and also owned a similar Massey, next one will probably be a pure blood Fendt. I do think the Massey looks sharp though.
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Post by cptusa on Dec 8, 2021 8:21:28 GMT -6
The electrical issues are more in the past than present. I think after AGCO bought Fendt they began integrating many of their features and quality controls. One thing Fendt has held back on is the controls for that transmission unfortunately. My opinion is that if you can make sense of the C1/C2 buttons and dials you will love the rest of the tractor. The powertrain is second to none though. I have a Challenger that's one frame size smaller and also owned a similar Massey, next one will probably be a pure blood Fendt. I do think the Massey looks sharp though. I know its not the fairest comparison in the world but how would you rate cab comfort compared to your CIH days? |
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Post by SWMan on Dec 8, 2021 9:46:26 GMT -6
CIH cab might be marginally larger, moreso from the integration of the GPS. Honestly cabs are very subjective and they are all nice nowadays.
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Post by cptusa on Dec 10, 2021 16:40:43 GMT -6
CIH cab might be marginally larger, moreso from the integration of the GPS. Honestly cabs are very subjective and they are all nice nowadays. Well if this was wrong I've got to have someone to blame! Got in one and yes I think the cab may be slightly large on a CNH machine but we're splitting hairs. A lot of stuff going on in the MF cab that will take some getting used to. I do like my CIH controls better but that also comes from being a creature of habit. It's ordered now, show up in February. New machine bought 10k less then a Magnum with 1000 hours. 40k less then JD with 1000 hours. Pretty much a no brainer. |
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Post by SWMan on Dec 11, 2021 12:31:32 GMT -6
CIH cab might be marginally larger, moreso from the integration of the GPS. Honestly cabs are very subjective and they are all nice nowadays. Well if this was wrong I've got to have someone to blame! Got in one and yes I think the cab may be slightly large on a CNH machine but we're splitting hairs. A lot of stuff going on in the MF cab that will take some getting used to. I do like my CIH controls better but that also comes from being a creature of habit. It's ordered now, show up in February. New machine bought 10k less then a Magnum with 1000 hours. 40k less then JD with 1000 hours. Pretty much a no brainer. When it goes well don't be shy with my reward.  It's pretty incredible the price of green paint these days. Probably good stuff but hard to justify 100K tied up in one machine to accomplish the same job... And I may wish to retract my earlier comments on Fendt. Sat in a new one the other day and was shocked and how many wee small buttons and endless menu's on screens there was. Making the Challenger/Massey controls seem a little less crazy. |
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Post by iamwill on Dec 11, 2021 14:01:02 GMT -6
The price of green paint has always been pretty incredible in my experience. When we bought our 9735 agco allis the same size and equipped deere was 36k more (over 35% difference). Dad took 10k of that difference and bought agco shares that are now worth almost 300k. This was over 20 years ago. In 2006 when we bought our challenger mt845b the deere equivalent was over 100k more, that paid the down payment on some land which is now worth about 10x what we paid for it. Last fall when we bought our gleaner s98 the assholes at the local deere dealership couldn't even bother to get us a quote so fk them. I am not going to argue which equipment is better as it all has issues and we do own some deere stuff. The point is that it's a lot easier to spend money than make it so the more you can leverage what you make the better. Not saying the way we do things is best way or the right way but it works for us.
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Post by cptusa on Dec 11, 2021 14:36:47 GMT -6
Well if this was wrong I've got to have someone to blame! Got in one and yes I think the cab may be slightly large on a CNH machine but we're splitting hairs. A lot of stuff going on in the MF cab that will take some getting used to. I do like my CIH controls better but that also comes from being a creature of habit. It's ordered now, show up in February. New machine bought 10k less then a Magnum with 1000 hours. 40k less then JD with 1000 hours. Pretty much a no brainer. When it goes well don't be shy with my reward. It's pretty incredible the price of green paint these days. Probably good stuff but hard to justify 100K tied up in one machine to accomplish the same job... And I may wish to retract my earlier comments on Fendt. Sat in a new one the other day and was shocked and how many wee small buttons and endless menu's on screens there was. Making the Challenger/Massey controls seem a little less crazy. There's a whole lot going on in a Fendt cab. I'm sure they're a good machine but I think there are buttons that control buttons in there. Guy sitting at a desk says let's put another button here! Probably looks more intimidating then it really is. I don't care what color iron is either bur as I said I was leaning toward CIH just because it's nice to have uniformity in cab controls. My CIH dealer is 20 miles away, JD is 4 miles away, MF is 7 miles. MF is a single store family owned, CIH is Titan, JD is Van Wall which is a very large group of store here. The JD stores owners philosophy is minimal parts at any store, farmer can wait a day. Titan has a pretty good selection of parts at local store or within reasonable distance for common parts. MF owners philosophy is we will have parts on hand for everything we sell and have plenty of it. All that said I tried to get into a JD 8345r because I had an offer from a guy if I bought it he was going to design an autonomous kit and leave it free of charge. Problem being the only ones I could find with lower hours were $300k plus so that shop sailed early. Tried buying a couple 1700 hour Magnums, a 340 and 315 on auction but each went right to $200K and verbally committed to a 310 with 1200 hours for $205k but got sold out underneath me. Titan has some 1000 hour machines in the system that meet my specs for $250-277k. Bought the MF brand new, fully loaded for $265k. More then I wanted to spend but options are dwindling quickly. |
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Post by cptusa on Mar 11, 2022 17:11:06 GMT -6
Well it got built on February 28, minus the ECM. Was nervous.
Word yesterday is ECM is in, tractor complete and ready for pickup.
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Post by cptusa on Mar 21, 2022 19:37:59 GMT -6
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Post by gav on Apr 10, 2022 2:53:54 GMT -6
What model & year was the magnum that burnt?
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