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Post by SWMan on Oct 24, 2022 10:59:03 GMT -6
I actually think triples pull better in the mud than 800 duals What is better for compaction? Triple 520 or dual 800s? Whatever slips less, compaction is mostly adverse effects from slippage in addition to the ground pressure. Tracks are best though for compaction. |
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Post by renslip on Oct 24, 2022 11:35:13 GMT -6
I agree with tracks but my wallet does not lol
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Post by jaymo on Oct 24, 2022 21:33:32 GMT -6
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Post by SWMan on Oct 24, 2022 22:06:02 GMT -6
Clearly no bias there at all.  I've owned just about everything by now including two and four track, duals and triples. I almost think the implement can make more compaction than the tractor and a perfect example is a loaded grain cart. Drive a loaded cart on tires around and one on tracks on a wet field and you will soon see why tracks are far superior. But tractors are a bit different, like I mentioned before you need a tractor that is big and heavy enough with enough rubber so that it's not spinning a bunch. A properly set up tired tractor will work fine IMO. The thing I can't figure out is the LSW tires, they just don't make sense to me. But I've not run them and can't say they don't work either. |
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Post by totaledmygn on Oct 24, 2022 23:41:28 GMT -6
How many acres on a paralink is too much? How about a 2013 66ft 3320 with 49k acres? Is there much difference between a 3320 and a 3310 as far as durabily goes? thanks
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Post by Oatking on Oct 25, 2022 6:20:59 GMT -6
Not sold on the track idea yet. Just traded off my 9510r for a newer 9520r with tires and pto. The twin flow pump at 115gal per minute should be more than enough hydraulic power for my future needs.
This is my third john deere tractor with wheels since switching from buhler versatiles. I have not noticed tracks or slippage much different from my neighbors track machines and never have the track maintenance they have. After my tracked grain cart fiasco , tracks on anything else will never happen. This year slippage with my tires was at most 2 percent more than tracks and its difficult to get a fair comparison because I was pulling an anhydrous cart. I figure if my tractor does not leave tracks any worse than a track tractor in my area this year , the extra cost is not worth it. Plus the two track tractors seem to get hung up or stuck more often. 2per cent slippage difference was unnoticeable.
Best way to decrease the tracks from a wheel tractor is to reduce ground speed and air pressure. I run my 820s at 6-8psi. At harvest time on the cart they get the full oem pressure.
49000 acres does not sound like an unreasonable amount of acres for a drill. A 5000 acre farm could easily put that on in 10 years. Just check the bushings and wear points over before you buy.
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Post by meskie on Oct 25, 2022 7:23:44 GMT -6
How many acres on a paralink is too much? How about a 2013 66ft 3320 with 49k acres? Is there much difference between a 3320 and a 3310 as far as durabily goes? thanks 49,000 isn’t that much. 3320 has a different frame design and supposed to be better. They can still crack just have to check at all the corners especially by the centre wings where the hinges are. The earlier the model the more likely to crack as they added a few more gussets over the years. I don’t know of any 3310 that don’t have cracks on them. Bourgault had an update gusset kit they would come put on or give to you to weld in yourself. We did it our selfs as they were too busy to fix it at the time. My brother used to weld frames at the factory so wasn’t a big deal and no ours didn’t have his stamp on it. |
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Post by totaledmygn on Oct 25, 2022 8:41:12 GMT -6
I was told the drill was updated with gussets but the farm boss was away when I inspected the drill so I counldn't get specifics. They have 5 drills for sale and this is the cheapest/smallest drill for sale.(farm has expanded and is now 34k acres) It is a QDA drill and I'm still trying to get my head around how that works. Is the seeding depth not adjusted by the packer wheel to seed boot tip height difference? How does adjusting frame to seed boot distance change anything? Also does the 6700 tank have any weak points I should look at?
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Post by meskie on Oct 25, 2022 8:48:43 GMT -6
Don’t think about it just know that the QDA works. Way nicer than adjusting pins.
6700 had some issues with the wagon steering on it check that over real good. Otherwise they are a good tank
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Post by SWMan on Oct 25, 2022 11:56:09 GMT -6
The paralink drills are only parallel linkage to the opener, then the packer wheel is on an arm the same distance behind. So while the opener stays vertical through the whole range of travel, the depth in relation to the packer wheel(which sets the depth) only goes up or down 1" for every 2" of vertical movement on the packer wheel. So Bourgault used that to their advantage by making the frame height adjustable, so only need to change the frame height to make minor depth changes instead of changing pins on dozens of openers at ground level.
At the same time they realized that a significant part of the market was bleeding away to competitors with 1:1 ratio openers like CNH, Morris, Salford, etc. So they designed the XTC opener which is more accurate over undulating terrain but requires depth adjustment at every opener.
I highly doubt anyone coming from a slab frame drill would be disappointed with a QDA, but if I was buying new I would buy a XTC. Having said that I bought a used 3320 QDA and 6700 tank myself, meskie what should a guy look at on the 6700 front end?
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Post by meskie on Oct 25, 2022 12:19:49 GMT -6
I can’t remember what exactly was breaking on them but something on the wagon steering was breaking or bending. Especially if it did a lot of tight turns against the end stops. We have never used a 6700 but I can ask the service guys what exactly was the problem. I just know in the few wet years we had couple guys around here that ran them had some trouble on the front end. There might have been updates for them as well as some were fairly new when this happened. I haven’t heard of any trouble with them the last few years. The 7700 cart we have has alot heavier components on it.
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