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Post by kevlar on Nov 12, 2021 12:45:52 GMT -6
Must go in spurts because last year when we were looking for a new air seeder, it seemed like the majority of things for sale were 5710’s, and a lot of them were 54 footers. And most with MRB. At least the stuff in our price range!
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Post by totaledmygn on Nov 12, 2021 12:57:39 GMT -6
Must haves for me on the toolbar are 10 inch spacing and mrb'2 dry fertilizer. Pneumatic packers and 3/4 inch carbide tips would be preferred as well. Tank dual fan dual shoot 5440 up to 6550.
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Post by totaledmygn on Nov 13, 2021 12:56:05 GMT -6
I've found a 48ft 3310 on 10 inch spacing. 6550 dual fan tank but also has anhydrous system. Any chance a 9682 has enough hydraulics to run toolbar/2 fans?
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Post by meskie on Nov 13, 2021 13:57:08 GMT -6
How much flow does that tractor have? I’m thinking it would be doable on 48’. We ran a 65’ with a dual fan 6450 on 55 gallon pump. Wasn’t great on headlands but worked.
We had demoed a couple 55’ with dual fan carts and it worked decent on the tractor they had with just the 55 gallon pump.
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Post by totaledmygn on Nov 13, 2021 14:36:36 GMT -6
Officially the tractor is rated at 50gpm but in reality more like 45gpm after steering requirements. The main pump is about 30gpm to the remotes. To get additional flow instead of the open centre steering pump returning oil to the tank it is re-routed to remote 4(guessing) if it senses demand. It sort of turns an open center system into closed center system but I would be still be concerned about heat build up running a fan on that circuit. Maybe the toolbar constant down pressure would be okay on that circuit. I haven't picked up the tractor yet so I don't have the owners manual to verify.
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Post by victory on Nov 13, 2021 23:26:05 GMT -6
I run a 48' Seedhawk with dual fans with a 8960 JD. Specs say the tractor is rated at 40 gpm. Takes about 3 seconds to lift the shanks, but I haven't had any problems.
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Post by totaledmygn on Feb 17, 2022 23:23:05 GMT -6
So I'm going to look at a 52ft 5810 on 10 inch spacing with pneumatic packers and mrb3's. Are the 5810's much of an upgrade over a 5710? How much productivity will I gain with 550 bushel tank over my current 230 bushel tank? Currently I can only get 30 acre per fill and it takes an hour at least to fill. Seeding wheat I only cover 120 acres a day and canola maybe 140ish.
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Post by SWMan on Feb 17, 2022 23:53:50 GMT -6
550 tank is a nice tank especially if it has the deluxe auger. Depending on tank splits and what you are doing for rates and products a bigger tank is almost like getting a wider drill. As far as the 5810 over 5710 I am not really sure that's much of an upgrade. It has a longer contour depth which helps with trash flow, but hurts with accuracy in rolling land.
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Post by slipclutch on Feb 18, 2022 7:34:45 GMT -6
So I'm going to look at a 52ft 5810 on 10 inch spacing with pneumatic packers and mrb3's. Are the 5810's much of an upgrade over a 5710? How much productivity will I gain with 550 bushel tank over my current 230 bushel tank? Currently I can only get 30 acre per fill and it takes an hour at least to fill. Seeding wheat I only cover 120 acres a day and canola maybe 140ish. Easy math. Double the production. |
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Post by meskie on Feb 18, 2022 7:48:12 GMT -6
A 550 tank would be easy double over a 230. Should take less time to fill also. The mrb3 are a nice upgrade on a 5810 but wouldn’t be scared of a good 5710 the 5” packers also make the drill pull far easier then steel is what I’ve been told.
The only downside is you might have a plugged run for longer. Haha
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Post by kenmb on Feb 19, 2022 18:15:11 GMT -6
Need to pay attention to how the tanks are configurable also. Not just a matter of xxx amount of bushels, but how you can configure the tanks to match your seed and fert rate. For example, if you have a 550 bu cart but run out of say fertilizer when seed is only 60% used up, you can run a fair amount longer by having flexibility in cart design that allows it to be configured to have 90% of seed used before fertilizer runs out. I think this feature is often overlooked in BG carts.
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Post by totaledmygn on Oct 23, 2022 9:31:51 GMT -6
I am looking to upgrade 4wd again. The 9682 I bought is fine and it pulled my 40ft air seeder better than the 946 but I can tell a 55ft paralink with a 450-550 bushel tank would be very difficult. Currently looking at a 2008 Case Ih 535 with the twin flow(94gpm) hydraulics which is almost impossible to find. Tractor is at 4600hrs. and needs 12 new tires which are only 520/42's. These triples seem a little small to me. I'm told the tractor is weighted to 100lbs. per horsepower. I'm thinking a tractor like this could pull any paralink(10 inch spacing) up to 76ft/700 bushel tank here in pothole country. If correct that would up open up a lot of drill choices for me compared to my little 9682. Your comments and thoughts on this unit are appreciated. thanks
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Post by meskie on Oct 23, 2022 12:57:59 GMT -6
Those are great tractors. And the mega flow on them works good. can always get the tractor tuned for a few more ponies if you want also. I suggest if you get the tractor to run 17-1800 rpm. It might pull your drill at a lower rpm but we found that was the sweet spot on our TJ for best fuel and power.
The 520/42 triples should pull pretty good with the right amount of weight.
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Post by SWMan on Oct 23, 2022 21:23:07 GMT -6
Those were good tractors, I actually had one of the 50th anniversary gold hood Steiger 535's and regret trading it off. One thing to note is that with the twin-flow on there you can't install a PTO, if that is ever a consideration. I actually think triples pull better in the mud than 800 duals, just wider on the road. 520's is still a fair bit of rubber, if you were pulling hard might want to weight it a bit heavier, but it would pull a 55' no problem.
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Post by renslip on Oct 24, 2022 10:50:36 GMT -6
I actually think triples pull better in the mud than 800 duals What is better for compaction? Triple 520 or dual 800s? |
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