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Post by garyfunk on Jul 7, 2021 18:34:47 GMT -6
Up to now I've just been using one of those 48 inch rods to check soil moisture. I had 40 inches of moist soil in a loam soil a month ago. Hopefully what you read, @oatking , was right. Maybe the flowering canola's roots can reach down there but sadly my fertilizer band is stranded in dry soil atm.
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Post by bob123 on Jul 7, 2021 19:59:56 GMT -6
Found some interesting information regarding canola growth during drought times. Root growth can extend up to 72 inches deep during flowering period. It would be interesting to probe down that deep and see what we actually have down there and be able to measure moisture availability. Two years ago Enns in Morris was telling me about a weather station they install in your field during the growing season and put a moisture probe down. I think the cost was about four grand to rent it for a year. Anybody rent one of these john deere weather stations on their farm. I can see its advantages, but how do you get a return on investment with one these gizmos. I was at one of their presentations for one of those, and I believe that it takes the moisture reading at various depths and then calculates a theoretical max yield based on that for the crop, and then you would do decide if or how much fert you wanted to top dress based on it. Sounded good in theory
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Post by Beerwiser on Jul 11, 2021 18:31:27 GMT -6
So canola here is starting to get knocked down. I am guessing 1.5 bales/ac. That is not a typo just to be clear. There are a few guys hoping for the white combine.
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Post by Oatking on Jul 11, 2021 19:02:46 GMT -6
Beerwiser do cattle eat harvested canola straw?. I admit to being no cowboy, just a plowboy! Last year I accidently left the chopper up for a couple up and downs and was surprised how much straw was left behind. Talked to the baler and they were not interested or had no buyers for this straw. This was dropped by a walker combine.
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Post by Beerwiser on Jul 11, 2021 19:07:57 GMT -6
Eat it, not really. Too woody and sharp IMO. Does make for good bedding as it sucks up a lot of moisture. Hard to start a bale is the other problem.
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Post by Albertabuck on Jul 11, 2021 23:20:22 GMT -6
I baled some one year. Straw was tougher than shit and put it thru the rotary 1682. Had dropped the knife bar from the chopper and the spreaders as I had been doing some cereals previously and really didn't want to try chopping it as on the pull type they power the chopper/discharge beater with poor system so often with rank stuff, just put it straight thru. Actually baled up ok. And that was with my Claas softcore. It made bedding, but cows wouldn't even rummage thru it enough to spread any of it themselves. Where you left it is where it stayed lol. Was so unpalatable I actually used some bales to make a temporary fence to split a corral for some reason, calves didn't even play with it.
I know not many anymore are set up for it, but silaging canola is best, that being chopped, especially if you can mix something else with it. I have known folks who did bale silage in tubes or piles, seemed to work out ok. As for dry feed, I think you need to take it more on the early side to maintain palatability.
I'm gonna guess every available custom silage crew gonna be busy if things don't improve quick. Its expensive and equipment and labor intensive. I don't recommend anyone do like me, but I do 4-600 ton a year by myself, sometimes you just gotta do what has to be done. Getting too old for pushing myself like though. Hard to get help, especially willing to run older equipment too. But the efficiency of the feed itself makes it all worth it in the long run, waste is under 1 percent if fed properly. And while labor intensive to put up, damm easy feeding in winter lol
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Post by kenmb on Jul 14, 2021 9:33:53 GMT -6
Worked at Crommer, Mb yesterday which is just across the Sk border about 35 km on the #1 then another 35 km south. Crops looked pretty good all along the way. A lot less canola on that trip vs my trip to Saskatoon. Nothing in that stretch looked to be suffering in any way. An average year it seemed, and on most of that land average produces a lot of grain.
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Post by meskie on Jul 14, 2021 10:11:01 GMT -6
I know a few purebred guys who like canola straw for bedding there bulls. The oil in the straw keeps them from getting manure tags during the winter.
We silaged canola in 02. It was ok but needed to mix it in with our other silage for them to eat it. It has a very unique smell to it I’d rather not experience again. It was too wet when we did it. Was dry all year till end of august and canola regrew and was flowering in September. We also cut oats and barley twice that year. First time was .5-3/4t per acre second cut was 4-5.
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Post by generalchaos on Sept 2, 2021 20:50:29 GMT -6
Well, my canola yielded 35 at home, which is a bit heavier soil, and 40 on my lighter soil.
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Post by garyfunk on Sept 4, 2021 17:59:36 GMT -6
Just finished swathing the canola last night. Gonna feel like the kid who cried wolf (I hope). A couple fields of BY6204 actually don't look half bad other than the few sandy hills. Won't know yield until the combine is rollin' though.
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Post by kevlar on Sept 4, 2021 18:25:49 GMT -6
Just finished swathing the canola last night. Gonna feel like the kid who cried wolf (I hope). A couple fields of BY6204 actually don't look half bad other than the few sandy hills. Won't know yield until the combine is rollin' though. Shhhhhhh! Stats Canada is watching!!
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Post by meskie on Sept 4, 2021 18:42:07 GMT -6
Well, my canola yielded 35 at home, which is a bit heavier soil, and 40 on my lighter soil. When we have a drier hot summer our lighter land does better then our heavy black dirt. We figure it doesn’t attract the heat as much and get big cracks in it letting the ground dry out more.
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Post by BJT on Sept 4, 2021 20:27:51 GMT -6
12bu average. Most neighbours the same. West of here worse.
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Post by generalchaos on Sept 4, 2021 21:00:16 GMT -6
Well, my canola yielded 35 at home, which is a bit heavier soil, and 40 on my lighter soil. When we have a drier hot summer our lighter land does better then our heavy black dirt. We figure it doesn’t attract the heat as much and get big cracks in it letting the ground dry out more. My lighter soil always does better than the heavy soil. The heavy soil is flatter, slower runoff if we have a wet year. The lighter soil is right beside a creek so it rarely has sitting water.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 5, 2021 9:50:22 GMT -6
Good job, general! thats a great yield for this year.
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