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Post by garyfunk on Mar 7, 2021 9:23:23 GMT -6
Just wondering what it looks like in other areas. Here in the Northern parkland region of Sask we went into winter with average soil moisture and now have very little snow cover so we're probably dryer than normal at the moment. A couple good spring snowfalls could change that pretty quick though.
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Post by meskie on Mar 7, 2021 9:37:32 GMT -6
I’d say we are dryer then normal but we had lots of snow early on that melted into the ground. Generally speaking snow cover for us never soak into the ground. We need rain spring rain to add soil moisture. I’d rather be on the dryer side then the wet side
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Post by kevlar on Mar 7, 2021 9:43:38 GMT -6
I never get too worried about soil moisture and snow cover during the winter, from my experience almost everything just runs off during the spring melt anyway, maybe some soils are different. A good rain in the spring does more than 5 feet of snow, unless of course you need dugouts filled. I hate being wet in the spring, more than enough bad experiences with wet weather.
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Post by cptusa on Mar 7, 2021 10:29:01 GMT -6
We were dry going into winter but got average snowfall that some of which soaked in, that equates to still pretty dry.
If I had to make a comparison this weather pattern is nearly mimicking 2011-2012.
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Post by Albertabuck on Mar 7, 2021 11:13:46 GMT -6
Was still quite wet going into winter, didn't get a whole lot of snow really, was a few good dumps, but things melted pretty good back in December January, was down to bare ground in the open, then snowed in Feb and going bare again now, like for example I never had to plow any snow at all this winter except for area to feed cows when we got a big dump in late Nov early Dec. As it sits now, should be able to get in fields in spring provided not any huge rainfalls, but most will still be going around low spots. We were horrifically wet all of last year and still haven't got past that yet, I have a lot of ground that hasn't seen a tractor in over a year. Its kind of a kick in the ass reading about the great grain prices when you never even hooked on to the drill last year because you couldn't go any further than the yard with them. Such is life.
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Post by BJT on Mar 7, 2021 11:18:30 GMT -6
Extremely dry in south sask. Driest I have seen it, and many older than me guys are saying drier than anytime in the 80’s. Many stories of dugouts that froze right down to the dirt, and our little snow is almost gone and doesn’t look like much of any kind of runoff. But lots of time for a spring storm yet.
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Post by kenmb on Mar 7, 2021 11:58:57 GMT -6
I would say a little above average snow this year. Have drifts in the middle of fields which isn't that common. But agree that I would rather have an extra inch of rain in May or June vs an extra foot of snow in January. I never understood why people would start writing off a crop in March. Was 6c yesterday and overcast, sunny today and calling for 8c. Hoping it would stay a little cooler because some of this snow is soaking in. But if it gets too warm too fast then it all ends up downhill. 1.5" of rain is far better than 3" of moisture in snow melt.
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Post by SWMan on Mar 7, 2021 13:04:59 GMT -6
Since October of 2019 when we got that insane dump of snow it has been extraordinarily dry. Last year basically used up all of our subsoil moisture and currently zero snow left. Not time to get concerned yet, but without some decent rain this year will be a struggle to hit normal production.
I'm going to vote extremely dry, but that could all change with some good April showers.
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Post by shmiffy on Mar 7, 2021 13:47:27 GMT -6
Good snow cover here all winter. It would be one of the higher snowfall years Anyone digging flowlines said maybe 5-6 inches of frost where there is good snow cover. Two weeks ago was ridging snow in the field, if you touched the dirt dust would be blowing around. Looks like tall stubble will be the winner here.
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Post by garyfunk on Mar 7, 2021 13:49:19 GMT -6
I think the way the poll is set up you can change your vote, at least I can 😁. So until June 1st, if things change in your area you can change your vote.
Captain, I hope you're wrong about it being like 2012, that was a pretty crappy growing year around these parts.
Patterns are patterns until the trend breaks. Right now we're in a dry pattern and for some of our dirt that's going to be awesome, for some of our lighter soil not so good.
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Post by cptusa on Mar 7, 2021 14:19:24 GMT -6
Captain, I hope you're wrong about it being like 2012, that was a pretty crappy growing year around these parts. I'll take 2012 any year. I was in an insanely small sliver of area that saw 17" of spaced out rain July-August. Crops were spectacular and prices were hot. I thinned down 3 pastures and brought cows to a close pasture getting rain that was outgrowing the cows there already. I'm only drawing the similarities through pretty random events. 2011 saw a derecho in this area with an extremely early and dry harvest with little snow fall through winter. An early spring had lush green grass in early April. So far 2020 into 2021 has tracked very similar.
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Post by torriem on Mar 7, 2021 15:54:09 GMT -6
Southern Alberta is very dry. The last few weeks have seen several high winds that have blown a lot of soil. Moisture levels were okay going into winter, but the big dump we received in november is long gone on the wind, and every bit of snow since has blown away. Very little moisture from the snow has stayed this winter.
We'll be depending on irrigation this year for sure. I haven't heard much about mountain snowpack, but the downstream reservoirs are in pretty good shape. We may get some water rationing, but will be enough for good crops. Dryland guys are definite starting out dry this spring until some rain comes.
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Post by BJT on Mar 7, 2021 17:30:33 GMT -6
Southern Alberta is very dry. The last few weeks have seen several high winds that have blown a lot of soil. Moisture levels were okay going into winter, but the big dump we received in november is long gone on the wind, and every bit of snow since has blown away. Very little moisture from the snow has stayed this winter. We'll be depending on irrigation this year for sure. I haven't heard much about mountain snowpack, but the downstream reservoirs are in pretty good shape. We may get some water rationing, but will be enough for good crops. Dryland guys are definite starting out dry this spring until some rain comes. With irrigation would it be normal at times to water before seeding ?
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Post by torriem on Mar 7, 2021 17:57:28 GMT -6
With irrigation would it be normal at times to water before seeding ? Yes absolutely. It's normal nearly every year for some crops. The catch is that the water turns on around May 1, but it's been as late as May 10th in the past. Our farm policy is to never seed canola before the water is on. And we like to irrigate before we seed canola in particular. It's possible to seed canola into dust and irrigate it out of the ground, but it takes finesse as irrigation can make the soil crust over in a hurry and make life very hard for those little seedlings. Usually we plant wheat two to three weeks before the irrigation is on, but on very dry years people have been known to wait for the water. The sum total of western Canada's onion production is in my area and they spend a lot of money building huge ponds to store water so they can run pivots before the irrigation water becomes available. I wouldn't be surprised to see them start irrigating in a week or two. I'm not familiar with what's required to grow onions but they till the heck out of their fields starting about now usually. I think it might be to get the soil to warm up. Doing that dries it out badly, hence the need for early water. Sweet corn growers too like to water as early as they can, so for guys pumping out of the river they might start irrigating 2nd week of April.
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Post by BJT on Mar 7, 2021 18:19:27 GMT -6
Right on. I figured it must happen. Will look for some pivots going next week on our way to fernie. Than we will know where onions are grown!
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