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Post by meskie on Jan 23, 2021 18:59:00 GMT -6
After the 30 series they went to DPF with the 9R series
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Post by northernfarmer on Jan 23, 2021 19:33:36 GMT -6
The business name where i am getting the software is called Jerry's Diesel Performance. They are from Fort St John B.C. I am not getting a power boost on the software. The mechanic cuts out the particulate filter and plugs all unused ends. He told me the tractor will appear stock if i decided to sell it. I wish the engineers thought this out more and cared about long term use. the cost for software and labour is 4000. I was told to expect it to take 3 years of oil changes before the oil looks clearer. I wanted to keep this tractor longer term because of the 510 horse power and it has high flow hydraulics and a pto so thought it pays to delete it. Ok so I gather your tractor is newer and has the "afterburner" trash can sized muffler to deal with. So does that engine still use EGR then but to a lesser extent and then the particulate filter on top of that. You never mentioned diesel exhaust fluid so am guessing it doesn't have that.
I never dug deep into this company but had to laugh at the one google review that is connected to the website in FSJ, someone sure is trying to put a bad name to the company and yet its petty stuff that has nothing to do with the actual business. I gather there was a reason why you went with him in the first place for you're Cummins rather then whatever outfits are available in Manitoba ?
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Post by meskie on Jan 23, 2021 19:58:19 GMT -6
The Cummins run a lot better once they have a few pieces changed on them.  Never done.....I mean seen a deere Cummins deleted but should be the same as a versatile. That one had a turbo problem so it got a new manifold And turbo and had a few extra pieces left that we couldn’t find where they went when we were done. So they got put in the scrap pile... |
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Post by Oatking on Feb 4, 2021 7:25:25 GMT -6
Getting back to the 13.5l engine we found the weep hole on the water pump plugged from caked on dust on my 9510r. We caught it just in time because it was showing early signs of leaking. My john deere combine water showed the same result. Now i know why they replace after 2000 hrs. avoided a costly engine job. Mechanic said even a slow leak of coolant can take its toll on the rods and main without you even knowing .
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Post by crtoney on Mar 22, 2021 20:50:04 GMT -6
T4i 13.5L are not as reliable as T3. Injectors, heads, EGR coolers, Turbos, injector wiring all fail frequently. Their are PIPs for various reasons to fix black coolant problems. Deere knows they have a problem. I’ll stick with my 12.5L...
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Post by jcalder on Mar 23, 2021 21:55:42 GMT -6
Traded our 9530 with the 13.5L for a 9570RT a couple days ago. Never did like the 13.5 so when we started shopping it was either a big Deere with a Cummins or a different brand. Thankfully we got a good deal on this unit. Attachments:
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Post by Oatking on Mar 25, 2023 8:13:52 GMT -6
Hey guys , I have a few 13.5 l john deere engines on the farm. My 2016 s680 was in for its annual inspection at the dealer and they found a lot of steel filings in the engine oil. They told me one cylinder has some streak marks on it, damage to one bearing and also suspect a cracked head. Combine has just over 900 sep hrs and 1080 engine hours. This machine has been well cared for and inspected every year at enns bros. No this engine has not been deleted, everything stock.
I am shocked at this revelation. Sounds like deere will help me out with the repair cost, but not sure the amount. We are working on that. On top of that the egr cooler is leaking and there is a warranty job on two bolts that have a rubber washer that fails and than allows oil into the rad. egr cooler is 4500 bucks. they might be able to repair the leak. They are sending it out to get checked. Not sure what the procedure is involved on checking its function.
These engine troubles I have read about on the 13.5l has me really concerned going forward. Last night I had a epiphany and saw two newer case international combines in the shop and a newer case quad track!
Its crazy now a days with repair bills. I remember dad never had huge repair bills. A big bill once in awhile maybe but never this crap of a major engine failing. Agricultural has changed big time over the years.
Before I get mad and buy all red for the farm , somebody tell me why I should consider a yellow banana combine (new holland ) and a blue new holland tractor. Ah crap , than I need to trade off my new green elmers grain cart, flex headers, disc drill and yard tractor for a red or blue one! just kidding!
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Post by kevlar on Mar 25, 2023 8:36:15 GMT -6
That sucks. They sure seem to be having issues with that engine. I feel they are trying to get too much out of these newer engines (all brands) and then putting the emissions crap on them is making the problems worse. You can’t choke and starve an engine and not expect problems.
We’ve been lucky with our New Holland combines over the years, no actual engine problems that I can recall, had most of the engine makes they’ve had, Cat, Ford, Iveco, and according to some people those have all been garbage 🤷♂️ Can’t really help you with their tractors as we run older ones 9680 and 9880. Almost tempted to order a rebuild kit for them and just keep them going forever, kind of Big Bud style, we don’t put a lot of hours on them in a year so don’t need a half million dollar tractor. Putting money into something that has earned its keep doesn’t seem to bother me as much as putting money into something just off warranty and still making payments on it.
I still don’t think you’ll see much of this equipment still running years from now with high hours. Maybe I’ll be wrong?
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Post by Oatking on Mar 25, 2023 9:40:13 GMT -6
I agree with the engine hp pushing its limits. A lot of guys push this 13.5 to 600 plus horse power. I think the 9560rt is maxed at 560 hp. Mine is set to 520hp. Deere mechanics have had issues with crack heads boosting hp. Also very common is when guys delete the def equipment they also reprogram the hp.
I remember hearing about a company that would take your 9880 or big bud type of style tractor and replace it with the a modern cab. That would be fine with me. Keeping it simple with a reliable built tractor and a modernized cab would be a big bonus.
My neighbour said back in the day they ran 760 mf combines and never ever thought of an engine failure. Even my dad drove a 7720 jd for years and years and put it thru some heavy damp crops and it excelled. Shit, my s680 has seen 2 droughts and 5 decent crops and no mud. Its been babied and I might have a serious engine bill!. If my dad was around he would be shaking his head at me for buying this contraption!
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Post by meskie on Mar 25, 2023 10:24:06 GMT -6
Lots of guys crack heads on jd engines or any brand without boosted hp or deleted. Sometimes it’s operator error no warm up or cool down.
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Post by 8850champion on Mar 25, 2023 12:46:58 GMT -6
Hey guys , I have a few 13.5 l john deere engines on the farm. My 2016 s680 was in for its annual inspection at the dealer and they found a lot of steel filings in the engine oil. They told me one cylinder has some streak marks on it, damage to one bearing and also suspect a cracked head. Combine has just over 900 sep hrs and 1080 engine hours. This machine has been well cared for and inspected every year at enns bros. No this engine has not been deleted, everything stock. I am shocked at this revelation. Sounds like deere will help me out with the repair cost, but not sure the amount. We are working on that. On top of that the egr cooler is leaking and there is a warranty job on two bolts that have a rubber washer that fails and than allows oil into the rad. egr cooler is 4500 bucks. they might be able to repair the leak. They are sending it out to get checked. Not sure what the procedure is involved on checking its function. These engine troubles I have read about on the 13.5l has me really concerned going forward. Last night I had a epiphany and saw two newer case international combines in the shop and a newer case quad track! Its crazy now a days with repair bills. I remember dad never had huge repair bills. A big bill once in awhile maybe but never this crap of a major engine failing. Agricultural has changed big time over the years. Before I get mad and buy all red for the farm , somebody tell me why I should consider a yellow banana combine (new holland ) and a blue new holland tractor. Ah crap , than I need to trade off my new green elmers grain cart, flex headers, disc drill and yard tractor for a red or blue one! just kidding! Make sure your radiator and water pump rubber boots/hoses get replaced. Once your coolant gets oil in it the oil weakens those rubber hoses and they will randomly just split. On our s690 we replaced the coolant 3 times in about 50 hours…. One hose after another |
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Post by bob123 on Mar 25, 2023 13:46:47 GMT -6
Before I get mad and buy all red for the farm , somebody tell me why I should consider a yellow banana combine (new holland ) and a blue new holland tractor. Ah crap , than I need to trade off my new green elmers grain cart, flex headers, disc drill and yard tractor for a red or blue one! just kidding! yellow bananas do significantly better in oats then red ones, something that might concern an oat king |
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Post by meskie on Mar 25, 2023 14:53:32 GMT -6
Before I get mad and buy all red for the farm , somebody tell me why I should consider a yellow banana combine (new holland ) and a blue new holland tractor. Ah crap , than I need to trade off my new green elmers grain cart, flex headers, disc drill and yard tractor for a red or blue one! just kidding! yellow bananas do significantly better in oats then red ones, something that might concern an oat king Except pulses and maybe corn the yellow bananas do significantly better in all crops then the red ones. |
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Post by Oatking on Oct 12, 2024 6:48:25 GMT -6
Traded our 9530 with the 13.5L for a 9570RT a couple days ago. Never did like the 13.5 so when we started shopping it was either a big Deere with a Cummins or a different brand. Thankfully we got a good deal on this unit. How do you like the cumins so far j Calder |
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Post by jcalder on Oct 13, 2024 6:54:15 GMT -6
I'd say it's been "ok".
Has good power and starts/runs good, but in November of 22 around 4200 or so (I think) hours the turbo on it blew and the new one was $19,000
Thought that was ridiculous so we called Cummins in Winnipeg and one from them was over 20k. Insane, I always thought a VGT was in the neighborhood of like 6 or 7 grand.
That being said last fall we bought a 9570RX which is also Cummins powered. So far so good on that one.
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