bob123
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Post by bob123 on Jan 20, 2021 18:19:20 GMT -6
It depends alot on the farmers I guess. I cut peas for my first time ever this year in a peaola intercrop and soybeans are less the 10% of my hours Was talking to the sales manager at our local NH dealer and he said it’s getting hard to find equipment that guys want. New or used. Told me combines and T9 tractors are sold out Will this be starting to effect the good used market then as well im guessing? My local mazers only has two used Cr's in stock and neither newer then 2011
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Post by meskie on Jan 20, 2021 18:35:05 GMT -6
Yes he figured the good used market for 3-4 year and under combines are gonna be in big demand. Out of their stores they haven’t sold many new machines in the last 5-6 years so that’s starting to show up on the used side with less machines for sale. He said if your looking for deere or case machines their lot is getting crowded with them. Had some bigger farmers switch over to NH this year. The claas was a lot more money was a big reason.
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Post by bob123 on Jan 20, 2021 19:09:06 GMT -6
And of the ones available I have noticed there are very slim pickings if you want rear wheel as well yet. I would think that would be in high demand with the way 2 of our last 4 harvests have gone.
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Post by Albertabuck on Jan 25, 2021 12:28:02 GMT -6
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Post by SWMan on Feb 15, 2021 21:44:24 GMT -6
Question was asked on another thread about what I did for combines, did not want to de-rail so figured I would answer here. Ended up getting a couple of Claas 750's that are.....10 years old. ha ha Took my mechanic with and spent a day going through them and that was money well spent. I know I'm gonna put some money into them to rebuild some stuff and put Sunntbrook parts in, but mostly the machines checked out good. Nice to get a couple of matched pre-emissions machines. All told these two will come in less than a similar 3-4 year old machine, even after the rebuild. I guess I trust my service department, but I will have extra harvesting power compared to running one larger machine so a little downtime shouldn't kill me. I talked to a few guys who have 1500-2000 hour machines that, if kept up, are very reliable. I'm hoping to accomplish the same. Honestly could even buy a third and keep a spare around, maybe when kids are older we could run them all...
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Post by shmiffy on Feb 15, 2021 22:19:14 GMT -6
Are you going to make the rotors high speed? Have you switched the two track out to a quad track yet? Another thread lol
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Post by SWMan on Feb 15, 2021 22:31:48 GMT -6
Are you going to make the rotors high speed? Have you switched the two track out to a quad track yet? Another thread lol Never ran a narrow-body before so unsure of how the rotor losses will be in cereals, might run a year and see. Machines getting all new feeder house guts, SB cyl/concave/impeller, new rotor bearings and new TM6 sieves and main sieve bushings, rebuild variators and a bunch of minor stuff. Should be a priority customer at the service dep't after all that on two machines...ha ha Ah the tractor...will be hard to trade off the two-track which has not given me a moment's trouble, especially after finding out two of the quad-trac's I have looked at had new engines inside of 2000 hours. I do like the quad-trac design though, and the price is right. I'm really on the fence on that one right now.
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Post by Oatking on Feb 17, 2021 7:53:42 GMT -6
SW man your ahead of me in newness of combines, I have two john deere s 9760s, yes they are paid off, but my question is how much do you expect to pay on repairs on your claas s?... my repair bill this year for the two is 25 grand. That money puts them in like new condition and keeps me rolling all thru harvest most years. The combines work hard for two weeks and cant bring myself to a 75 000 dollars lease payments for one new s790 deere. I will keep going like this because it seems like these days the hidden costs of yester years are adding up over the years. Like land taxes and so on. Not quite enough money it seems to go around the farm especially when my hobby is collecting and playing taylor guitars!lol Maybe i missed something but thought you bought the new green claas . what made you go to one machine?
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Post by cptusa on Feb 17, 2021 9:04:02 GMT -6
How many hours are on the machines you bought? I'm trying to trade up now but staying with red or going to NH so heads don't need traded. Was really wanting to get into a CIH 7150 (heritage) but those are scarce as hen's teeth so probably ending up with an 8240 or an 7.9 or 8.9. Wanting bit more capacity nd don't have the man power to add a second machine though I could buy a 7088 and leave one in the shed for a spare for what trading costs. Mine trade has 1750/1450 hours and another year will really kill value.
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Post by SWMan on Feb 17, 2021 11:48:18 GMT -6
About 1600 hours on them. We went through and looked at all the flighting thickness and such. We figured the elevator chains had been recently replaced and the bubble-up auger. The feeder chains were at the end of their adjustment so new chain/sprockets/bearings/guides in there. New SB cylinder/impeller/concave and bearings as well as APS grates as they didn't have the ones I wanted, rotor bearings only because we don't know history and easy to do once impeller is out. Chopper blades were good, but that is an annual event for me when running one machine, might make two seasons with two machines. Updating to TM6 sieves and doing sieve bushings. Some maintenance on the cleansweep for the radiators, one needs an AC pump, rebuild all variable speed drives including variable speed feeder/cylinder/rotors, a few belts, a couple hoses to replace, some filters and various adjustments and small stuff. Should be about 50K per machine but normally I would say I put 10K into one combine for repair and maintenance on my acres and these hopefully will land in that area or less after they are brought up to current.
This is the trick to owning equipment these days, unless you run new under warranty then there will be repair costs. Finding something older but not completely wore out that is very depreciated allows a lot of wiggle room for a rebuild like this. I could have bought a 5 year old machine and paid twice as much and it still might need a ton of work. Paying the good tech to go over the machine gave me the peace of mind to go this route.
Other benefits to an older machine too I am already finding out. Since the AC pump was failing on the one, the mechanic advised probably shouldn't run it like that any more. Pretty much done inspection so I parked it. Without changing pump on the spot the belt would have to come off before it gets moved to dealer. That would be a no-go with newer machine since when alternator is unhooked the hydro system won't work, this one has a cable and will still operate to load on the trailer. 8-)
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Post by dookiller on Mar 21, 2021 11:10:33 GMT -6
So much garbage on the new machines, I just can't fathom owning one. My acres don't warrant anything real shiney either. I like my Masseys and my Gleaners because I am most familiar with them. Hard to beat a Massey for simplicity with a hydraulic rotor. Not to mention the fact that once you plug one there isn't a machine that unplugs as easy as far as I know. Never leave the cab and rolling again in a minute or 2. I hardly ever plug because I don't push that hard and I do the swathing of canola and take pride in perfect swaths. Swathing 8' high sweetclover on the other hand has some challenges lol. The best 10 yr old combine is the best serviced hands down. At 10 yrs those bearings that got overlooked changing while replacing a belt or slip clutch makes zero sense to me. Or hear of guys taking major components apart and not replacing bearings while in there. No money saved in my eyes doing that but you would be amazed at corners guys cut to save a dollar here and there. All 10 yr old combines need to have a bullet proof engine in them and not an engine that has had a reputation of being an expensive PIA. Hard to beat some Cummins and C13's and Sisu's. I heard way to many Deere horror stories on their water pumps to consider looking at one. That's just me though. Many are comfortable spending a pile of cash getting that changed 2-3 times in their life span. Lot's of Deere still around so something must keep guys in them. My buddy had both his done and was shocked at how much it cost. First place the mechanic went checking his combines was the engine compartment and said time for pumps or else real big $$$$$. Lexion has the Cat engines as well and only thing that really happens are the injector cups after many hrs or cranking them up. The engine is the life blood of every machine out there. Combines rarely get more than 3-4500 hrs and the ones at the high end are in need of major TLC everywhere at that point. In a tractor that engine would be expected to be trouble free. I wouldn't buy a tractor that needed attention on a regular basis at those hrs so a combine with any engine issues til its end not worth the hassle yet they put that junk in there. Caps fuel injection is a recipe for at least one failure on Cummins in it's life. My 9790 MF has a Caps on a QSL9 but at 2200 hrs hasn't been touched yet thank god. The Sisu was a better engine in that regard I am told but I can't complain if I haven't had to touch this Cummins yet. My A85 Gleaner (9895 670B) has the C13. Likes its fuel but apparently a tune will help with this dropping the rpm to 2000 rather than 2200 and bump hp to 500 at the same time from 425. I was going to do the tune before I even took it to the field but the guy said no. Use it first stock and then I will come out so you know you are getting what you paid for. So now is the time I guess.
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