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Post by SWMan on Dec 13, 2020 13:13:43 GMT -6
Since this is the combine forum I figured I would ask a fun combine question...ha ha.
Let's suppose you were looking for a combine(s) that were in that 10 year old range(ideally pre-emissions or easy to delete). Which model is easy to find, source parts for, works well in a range of crops, reliable, etc.
I put in General Board, not confining to any brand. I put the emissions requirement in there because a LOT of service issues stem from emissions stuff and can't be fixed by the farmer.
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Post by carlos on Dec 13, 2020 13:23:07 GMT -6
CR 9070. I have a 2009, 1700 threshing hrs.
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Post by meskie on Dec 13, 2020 14:09:49 GMT -6
If I was looking for a 10 year old machine I’d go with a CX machine. But for availability and finding used parts/parts machine probably go CR. It’s surprising what the CR machines sell for at auction. Never looked at them just at the prices so they could be worn right out
We are lucky that we have every colour dealer within a 1/2 hour drive from us so it wouldn’t bother me to drive any of them. It would be more how many acres in how short of time I wanted to do it.
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Post by slipclutch on Dec 13, 2020 14:32:40 GMT -6
Case is still a dam good machine all around.
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Post by jaymo on Dec 13, 2020 14:37:51 GMT -6
CR 9070. I have a 2009, 1700 threshing hrs. That's a good machine. Have the same one. No breakdowns this season. The biggest drawback of older CR's is the ASP. They work, but every time that door opens it slows you down. Last year, when we were scraping canola off the ground after the blizzard, the ASP machine was doing half the work of our other machine with DSP. This year, with everything standing nice, I think the ASP opened twice all season, so it's not a factor when conditions are more favorable.
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Post by meskie on Dec 13, 2020 14:48:38 GMT -6
Can’t forget about the stupid shear pin on the concave of the CR machines.
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Post by SWMan on Dec 13, 2020 16:10:32 GMT -6
It's an absolute shame they never put a proper stone trap on those CR's for so many years. My 2014 CR9090's had the DSP and worked fine, but lots of stories of ASP machines ingesting rocks. Meskie do you mean low auction prices? I've noticed the CX machines can be pretty reasonable too, easy to keep a parts unit around if they are that cheap. I remember an article one time in a paper about a guy that had almost a dozen TR85's. I guess he had lots of labor and ran several at once with backup machines and a few parts units. Seems to me his total investment was under 100K and this was a few years back so the were newer then. I guess it wasn't the big machine so not in demand, and enough of them around to be cheap. Slipclutch I did have some 7010/7120's back in the day and they were pretty decent units. They did not like tough conditions though, but simple to operate. 30 series was when it went downhill for quality in my experience. Keep the answers coming.
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Post by meskie on Dec 13, 2020 16:58:27 GMT -6
Yes. I was talking about low auction prices. if we had enough guys around we would likely be running a couple older CX or walker lexion machines. A farm around here used to run a while fleet of TR96-99 combines. They had a few spares and a few for parts. The one guy was full time mechanic fixing the broken down ones. They would take one of the spares and park the broken one. If you have lots of labour that might work ok. We had traded our tr96 in a tr98 and they had bought our 96 and thought it was in great shape. We thought it was pretty well used with 2500 threshing hours on it. The tin was getting thin everywhere and we had replaced the feeder floor.
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Post by torriem on Dec 13, 2020 22:09:03 GMT -6
Haven't noticed any quality problems with the Case 30 series compared to the 10 and 20 series.
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Post by bob123 on Dec 14, 2020 1:49:39 GMT -6
I'd vote for a tier 3 cr. I have been very happy with the 10.3 engine, seems like a good balance of power and fuel efficiency. There have been neighbors that have done 75k+ of rock damage through all brands, I dont think the asp is really any worse at stopping them but it is definitely more annoying, although it really shouldn't open much if you keep your header set light and the stone sump on the Macdon clean. There is more maintenance areas the case but I feel the repairs are more simple. Good on losses and capacity. Twin rotor seems to thump more when it gets really humid late at night though, s2's may fix that? Rotor gearbox is kind of a joke though,rebuilt mine this last winter and the bearings are 4 inches apart with 12 inches of leverage on the shaft, the variator bridge is really needed on all machines. I haven't had to replace a shearbolt since the second day of harvest 5 years ago so I haven't had that annoyance that some other guys deal with. Been running my 970 for 5 years with +100hp tune (470hp) and it will out do some of the combines I run with that paid 8x more. Extra rotor speed of the bit newer ones would be nice in cereals
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Post by jaymo on Dec 14, 2020 8:53:19 GMT -6
Can’t forget about the stupid shear pin on the concave of the CR machines. Yep, that was a frustrating and plain stupid design but it's not a factor anymore. First, since we started straight cutting all our crops we have not broke even one concave shear bolt. Secondly, and more importantly, there is retrofit update kit that removes that shear bolt and replaces it with a reset you can do from the cab.
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Post by carlos on Dec 14, 2020 10:52:08 GMT -6
The shear pin on concave was a problem, only if the swather operator didnt know what he/she was doing!.
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Post by meskie on Dec 14, 2020 12:23:18 GMT -6
The shear pin on concave was a problem, only if the swather operator didnt know what he/she was doing!. You must of never straight cut tough two row barley. That seemed to be the worse crop for shear pins around here.
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Post by carlos on Dec 14, 2020 16:07:05 GMT -6
That is correct, I've straight cut dry barley but lots of tough wheat.
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Post by shmiffy on Dec 15, 2020 21:29:37 GMT -6
Get a fleet r series gleaners.
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