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Post by kenmb on Dec 19, 2022 9:21:04 GMT -6
I am willing to bet a guy thinking of buying a 1966 Skidoo isn't looking to join a group ride for 100 miles on Friday.
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Post by kevlar on Dec 19, 2022 12:05:47 GMT -6
I am willing to bet a guy thinking of buying a 1966 Skidoo isn't looking to join a group ride for 100 miles on Friday. I get that but it’s not like classic cars or even farm machinery, the market just doesn’t exist. I have the same machine but a 69, it was my grandpa’s, you can literally rebuild it front to back for under a thousand bucks.
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Post by kenmb on Dec 19, 2022 16:08:13 GMT -6
Guys collect strange things. You want to buy a cassette deck? I got lots of them now. I don't have an interest in old snowmobiles but a different segment of that is the vintage sled racing. A few old sleds got picked up off farms and got new life. Had a 1973 Polaris TX340 dad bought new that was put out to the pasture and a local guy came got it years ago. Don't know its fate but if back in running condition then there is a few $$ gone from the guys wallet. Or else some of its parts went into some other 50 year old sled. I definitely have no love for a 1966 skidoo like that ad as I had a few similar when I was a kid, Motoski and a Skiroule I think and the Skiwiz. Not fond memories of the carb intake at your crotch, squeeze bulb primer. It wasn't a matter of if you wanted to go for ride, it was a matter of if the sled started to allow for a ride.
Did sell my 2005 600 144" Polaris today. Had that thing modded pretty good with twin pipes, clutching, jetting and gearing all dialed in quite well. Guy who bought did some grass drags in the past so was pretty impressed with the test pilot run. Tough selling a good working machine but have a few others to ride so thinning the herd.
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Post by kevlar on Dec 19, 2022 18:44:25 GMT -6
I’ve noticed the big thing now is to call something “vintage “ then jack up the price. I’ve been shopping around online looking for stuff for my cabin and come across a fair bit of furniture from the 90’s, made of cheap particle board with the plastic fake wood looking cover. I’d guess it’s something that the people have picked up from a yard sale or deceased grandparents and think they can get a few hundred bucks for something thats worthless.
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Post by wheatking76 on Dec 19, 2022 20:07:56 GMT -6
been looking for a different sled but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot on the market, just either overpriced or beat, some guys i talked to figure the covid rush for sleds will start to dwindle down and more sleds will be fore sale especially with so far sub par snow and interest rates on the rise the toys are generally the first to go
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Post by SWMan on Dec 19, 2022 23:58:57 GMT -6
been looking for a different sled but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot on the market, just either overpriced or beat, some guys i talked to figure the covid rush for sleds will start to dwindle down and more sleds will be fore sale especially with so far sub par snow and interest rates on the rise the toys are generally the first to go They are out there, but usually go on kijiji and sell within hours. You need a teenage boy watching closely to catch them! In November I picked up a 2006 Skidoo renegade 600sdi and a 2010 MXZ 800etec for both around 3K. The renegade had very low miles and the MXZ had average miles. Added to my 2004 MXZ and my 2004 Summit I am probably into the sport for a little over half the price of a new machine. For a season that is a few months tops and has a handful of really good riding days that seems about right to me. As long as the machines are reliable that's the main thing. My 2004 MXZ has been flawless since new and approaching 10,000km although it needs shocks now. Does anyone know a good aftermarket source for shocks?
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Post by wheatking76 on Dec 20, 2022 0:34:25 GMT -6
oh I know I bought my sled in 2020 in the midst of the covid rush and the whole province having decent snow and it was a drop everything and go pick this sled up no negotiation and cash there was 3 people behind me in line to take it if I didn't, glad I bought it been a good sled its a 2009 Renegade X happy with it but now I've ran it in all conditions I'm looking for little more sled track and maybe bigger engine. keep telling myself if I fond what I want this sled will have to go but really ill probably keep it everyone else seems to have 2 or 3 sleds so why cant I haha
shocks are insanely expensive I put the rear shock in mine and I thought that was crazy expensive only to find out the middle shock is around $800
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Post by Oatking on Dec 20, 2022 6:49:28 GMT -6
Well , at headingley sports shop , inventory is huge! They said once a bike or sled sellds they want the customer to take it right away so they can pile in another new unit. Apparently they have a shed full of used units between the showroom building. Order times have improved a lot also. I made a last minute switch. I upgraded to a 22 road master instead of a springfield darkhorse. Now I have a pretty cool touring bike to go along with my sporty chief.
One thing I did learn from the dealer is people are being rejected from financing. They said quite a number of folks come in and say....I will buy the sled if you can get me financing. That is crazy and very concerning.
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Post by gleanerl on Dec 20, 2022 6:52:49 GMT -6
Too bad you guys looking for sleds are not in my area. Online is full of options from new to old. Doesn't hurt being close to a military base. All though they do ride them hard. The young guys buy and sale their toys as the seasons change. Spring time side by sides and four wheelers will be listed once this years new toy has arrived.
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Post by hardrockacres on Dec 20, 2022 7:30:21 GMT -6
I have been looking for a trail sled to use when I ride with a group that sticks to the trails instead of running my longer tracked units. That shorty T-Cat just does not measure up anymore in suspension and handling vs the newer ones so it is a no go for the 100+ mile days we do. Funny back when it was new we thought they were great as we didn't know any better but you get on it now and it seems archaic. Wanting to find a 2020 or 2021 850 xcr switchback with the Pro-X rear suspension. Had a 2014 800 Pro R and it was the best handling and riding trail sled i have ever been on. Not so good for off trail tho.
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Post by kenmb on Dec 20, 2022 12:06:30 GMT -6
That's why I let the 2005 go Hard rock, great sled to take out for a few miles but I didn't like riding it for more than a 10 mile loop around home. The 2005 is the old Edge chassis with trailing arm suspension and such. The newer sleds I find I do like riding more, as in go out for an afternoon and not an hour. Next oldest is a 2010 Rmk 600 and that is a keeper for years yet.
While I understand the thinking behind all these sleds soon up for sale another possibility is that as debt payments become more there is less disposable income so those 10 day vacations down south get cut for a couple weekends at home staying in a cabin and snowmobiling. If a sled is owned already then such trade-offs in leisure time activities are thought about. Let's just say we are much less likely where both the vacation and sledding are done in one winter. Of course we have the people who bought the cabin and the sleds so perhaps both are up for sale soon.
Real world would say fewer new sleds sold and more used sleds changing hands.
Wheatking, a guy can't beat clutching and gearing a sled to change its behaviour. Don't always need a bigger engine. On the prairies a 600 will get you stupid fast just like a 800. Only difference is a 800 stretches the arms a little more. But a clutched and geared down 600 vs a stock 800 can be a more desirable sled to ride when talking how they feel when you hit the throttle or out playing in some soft snow. I have 600s and 800s and like riding the piped, clutched and geared 600 Rmk as much as the RMK 800 that's also clutched. The 600 gets riden more often actually.
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Post by hardrockacres on Dec 20, 2022 12:39:53 GMT -6
LOL Ken you mention setting up a good 600 with clutching and gearing and it can run with 800's in 80% of all situations. Big pulls across the lake or a straightaway would be the only downfall and not the end of the world.
Why I found it funny is that is what I have done with all my sleds. My T-Cat is clutched (done on a dyno for the HP & torque curve), geared, along with engine work. It is one nasty rocket with noise to match. Can run with new big iron all day so long as it is a fairly straight line. My sidewinder is also geared, along with custom tunes of 240/270/300 hp, with intake / exhaust work, map sensor and blow off valve. Both these sleds are very quick and with the power they feel very light. Are they the fastest....no. I have them both geared to be quick from 30-80mph as that is where most people do 90% of their riding. corner to corner there isn't much that can keep with them. the SKS is the wife's so it doesn't get played with too mush as she does not like that kind of thing, but as mountain sled it already has a bit lower gearing.
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Post by wheatking76 on Dec 20, 2022 13:24:21 GMT -6
well my only thing is I sled with a group of guys who like to find the deeper stuff in coulees aswell as sled trips up north we were up in that meadow lake country last year and i found i was way under equipped mostly in the track department I only have a 1 1/4 track and i was spinning out and getting stuck a lot even around here i seem to spin out a lot mostly track related, i thought of modifying this one to different gears and put a different track on it I'll leave it this way and just upgrade to a different one thinking a 1 3/4 track should do haven't decided wither a backcountry or summit be the next move
600 cc was still enough to play around and make that sled move but I wouldn't turn a 800 down either, field riding i can keep up to the 800s but i'm always the back of the pack anyways to watch the rest of them show off
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Post by hardrockacres on Dec 20, 2022 14:19:10 GMT -6
Wheatking, I had a 09 Ski Doo 600 Etec Renegade X with a 137 x 1-1/4" track and it could go almost anywhere in deep snow as it was so light and the track then was also a 16" wide. Then ordered a 2014 800 backcountry X with the 137 x 1-3/4 x 16wide track. It could do more in the deep stuff with the bigger track and more power, but it also came with the summit skis so the front floated better. Might want to consider a mountain ski if the sled was nose diving when you were getting stuck.
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Post by wheatking76 on Dec 20, 2022 16:19:11 GMT -6
the 137 1 1/4 on my sled did well no doubt better than i was expecting but figured the time i put a new track and better gearing and skis on it i may as well buy a hopefully lower km backcountry, tried a summit and it was to tippy with the narrower ski stance for me, no plan on going to the mountains the the, me getting stuck was mostly maybe my fault to stopping on the deep powder and the sled would just dig itself down and back end stuck skis were always fine
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