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Post by steigerguy on Nov 9, 2024 7:48:36 GMT -6
I'm looking at getting a disc drill. Would the 3 inch gauge wheels be to narrow if we are still doing some conventional tillage? We're trying to do minimal tillage but corn land is still disced. We farm in the Red River Valley Morris area.
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joru
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Post by joru on Nov 9, 2024 8:02:18 GMT -6
Talking to a few guys i heard that it should not be a problem as long you work the ground in the fall. We are still using the wider ones and planning to keep them. I wanted to try the 3" because you can get them in Urethane as well and they should last longer. The big downside is that the 4.5" are better in shedding mud because of increased flexing.
I still have 78 used closed narrow gauge wheels for sale if somebody wants to try them out ;-)
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Post by Oatking on Nov 9, 2024 10:39:13 GMT -6
On my 1895 , I found it beneficial to put washers between the gauge wheel and the pivot arm . I found if you have the wheel scrapping against the disc it will plug up fast ! Especially with nh3 on my front row . When I bought my unit , someone even put scrappers on the discs . Holly crap , that was a god awful idea in clay !!
I think it is more important to get spoke wheels . I don’t think the 3 to 4.5 will be a big deal . Way more critical things to worry about .
You can always adjust your depth easily if the wheel sinks into worked ground .
Biggest issue is your packer wheel and closing wheel . Make sure the bushings are tight and your spring tension is high to push the wheel into the seed slot .
Lots of times those packer wheels seize up .
I am not a big fan of the Deere quality of the rubber gauge wheel ,
Man , driving over zero till stubble sure does a number on the rubber . Well , if you call it rubber idk !
I was wondering if the 3 inch might result in less soil blowing ?
You might get more ridging compared to a 4.5 , but with 4.5 it gives a flatter field finish which tends to blow in worked land !
If you are seriously going to buy a used disc drill , please inspect it carefully and be prepared to spend a thousand dollars an opener !
I am not kidding !!! It’s a lot of maintenance. Never mind the tank !
It’s a super unit together but requires work to keep her going which many units lack on the used market .
I rebuilt mine and enjoy seeding with it . It was a game changer on my farm especially with canola .
I always thought it would be a great flax seeder as where
Oh and check about your required seed meters . Your will need
Green black yellow orange and maybe blue .
They are 2800 each I believe .
I hope I haven’t discourage you ! lol
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Post by oatrust on Nov 9, 2024 20:10:20 GMT -6
I’m in same area and planter came with 3”. I was not too excited but I have not noticed a difference in terms of planting in worked soil vs my 1895 with 4.5” gauge wheels. If it had solid 3” gauge wheel, slowly replace them with 4.5” spoked as the rubber wears
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Post by shmiffy on Nov 9, 2024 23:15:22 GMT -6
Gauge wheel should touch the disk at the bottom and have a 1/8- 1/4 gap at the top. Deere likes them to be parallel. Put alittle twist on the gauge wheel arm or grind alittle off,
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Post by steigerguy on Nov 12, 2024 14:49:21 GMT -6
Ok thanks for the replies. Watched a few Phil Needham videos so I feel somewhat informed but I'm sure there will be a few surprises. What about closing wheels. Are the notched ones better for no till or minimum till?
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Post by Oatking on Nov 12, 2024 16:26:36 GMT -6
Ok thanks for the replies. Watched a few Phil Needham videos so I feel somewhat informed but I'm sure there will be a few surprises. What about closing wheels. Are the notched ones better for no till or minimum till? I wouldn’t worry about the notched vs smooth . More important the bushings are tight on the closing wheel arm and the spring tension is enough so soil covers the seed row. If you are buying new , than consider notched |
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Post by joru on Nov 12, 2024 18:21:09 GMT -6
had smooth closing wheels on my previous drill and now notched...i would change to notched ones right away. I think they work way better than the smooth ones.
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Post by Oatking on Nov 12, 2024 20:55:41 GMT -6
had smooth closing wheels on my previous drill and now notched...i would change to notched ones right away. I think they work way better than the smooth ones. My friend used a cutter to notch out his smoothed closing wheels . I thought that was a great idea . His looked like factory one . |
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Post by joru on Nov 13, 2024 7:05:13 GMT -6
I have heard that some guys cutting them out. The notched ones are heavier too. I have a used set for sale as well.
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