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Post by Oatking on Sept 4, 2024 7:09:30 GMT -6
I have got good use of my new 16 84 farm king this fall .
It has great capacity and I don’t think I can go back to using my 13-95 .
However , I am annoyed by many issues.
1 . Lots of grain leaking everywhere . Swing auger leaks a lot
2. Auger flighting runs red hot near the intake end near the hydraulic handle that is the hydraulic stop .
Paint is burning off . Rattles . This is the second auger I know which has this problem .
3. 1000 pto gear box is loose and rattles
4. Square tubing shakes like a leaf on a tree .
5 . Swing auger rubs on auger intake box while lowering swing auger . Almost ripped of electrical hoses . I had a hard time lowering swing auger due to it binding on the auger intake .
6. Canola leaks out of top of auger flighting by top bearing !
7. All the permanent shields make it a terrible job to grease !
8. Hitch is difficult to hook up to because of angle to tractor hitch .
For almost 60 thousand dollars , customer support is poor . Don’t seem to care .
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Post by joru on Sept 4, 2024 7:14:46 GMT -6
It sounds like, it should leave the farm soon. How much was a Westfield more than a Farm King. You hear so many terrible stories about augers - you would think, that it can not be that difficult to design an auger.
However we have an older Meridian Auger and one newer Westfield Auger. Both working very good with very little troubles.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 4, 2024 7:15:11 GMT -6
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Post by jaymo on Sept 4, 2024 7:25:09 GMT -6
You were not joking about burning off the paint!
We have the same auger. Had it since 2019 or 20.
The only issue that I have is the leaking by the swingout. It's where the top of the tube meets the hopper. It doesn't always leak but if the hopper flexes the wrong direction it leaks.
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Post by joru on Sept 4, 2024 7:36:45 GMT -6
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Sept 4, 2024 8:07:58 GMT -6
If it's anything like our Brandt 852, warranty is a concept, not so much a reality, same as their "customer service", the old boys must be spinning in their graves if they see the way the present company is run.
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Post by shmiffy on Sept 4, 2024 14:56:27 GMT -6
Have to park it at the front entrance of the dealer you bought it from so everyone going in and out can see.
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Post by shmiffy on Sept 4, 2024 14:57:56 GMT -6
That burnt paint and gear box rattling are probably caused by the same problem
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Post by victory on Sept 4, 2024 20:59:36 GMT -6
Either they changed some of the design concept on that auger for the worse, or someone(s) was not very careful putting that auger together. I'm guessing the latter of the two. I don't have any of those issues with my 2015 16X84 FarmKing.
My brother and his boys helped a guy assemble a big 13" swing auger once so it would be ready for them to use right away. The guy was using a forklift to assemble it and if it hadn't been for my brother and his boys being careful about putting stuff together, they are quite confident stuff would have gotten bent. I think most auger problems come from poor/bad assembly.
I will not buy an auger without hearing it run first.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 5, 2024 7:28:54 GMT -6
Either they changed some of the design concept on that auger for the worse, or someone(s) was not very careful putting that auger together. I'm guessing the latter of the two. I don't have any of those issues with my 2015 16X84 FarmKing. My brother and his boys helped a guy assemble a big 13" swing auger once so it would be ready for them to use right away. The guy was using a forklift to assemble it and if it hadn't been for my brother and his boys being careful about putting stuff together, they are quite confident stuff would have gotten bent. I think most auger problems come from poor/bad assembly. I will not buy an auger without hearing it run first. I believe you are correct , usually it’s the way it is built . I was disappointed canola was leaking out the top of the auger by the bearing ! I need to take a look why it is doing that . It’s not but the down spout . It looks like a bolt hole is open . Maybe one fell out ? If I don’t clean up canola by swing auger I easily lose ten bushels of canola throughout the day due to leakage . Not impressed with that occurrence Biggest problem is the red hot tube ! That looks like a big job to replace the flighting . My dealer picked up the auger in morden . Farm king wants my dealer to repair it . I feel my dealer is not at fault since they only picked it up from morden factory. My dealer is also super busy . They don’t have time to take apart an auger right now . Lately , I have more problems with augers than combines ! Augers should not be that high tec ! |
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Post by victory on Sept 5, 2024 10:54:17 GMT -6
Hey Oatking, I hope the volume of grain it moves partially makes up for the all problems and headaches it is causing. Losing that much grain over a day is crazy.
We all know someone should/needs to be held accountable, but it is often the farmer that is left holding the bag!
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Post by Oatking on Sept 5, 2024 10:54:46 GMT -6
Farm king support came to farm . They will fix the misaligned flighting on warranty .
Nice they came to farm to look at auger .
They were upset at the dealer for poor assembly .
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Post by meskie on Sept 5, 2024 11:26:20 GMT -6
Farm king support came to farm . They will fix the misaligned flighting on warranty . Nice they came to farm to look at auger . They were upset at the dealer for poor assembly . That’s the reason out Brandt dealer gets crews in to setup and pre deliver the augers. They were having too many problems with setting them up at the dealer. I’m sure it isn’t the most experienced guys who get the auger setup job…. |
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Post by SWMan on Sept 5, 2024 22:16:34 GMT -6
Setup is probably responsible for most auger issues. Glad they are looking after you. I had a Brandt 1390HP that piled up the flighting after very little use and they ignored it and charged me freight on the replacement flighting from Regina. Last time I pay a premium for something that isn't any different than a less expensive brand. My Farm King 1684 is still running good after a half dozen years, neighbor was asking about it said a Westfield is like 20K more for the same auger!
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Post by Oatking on Sept 6, 2024 6:09:53 GMT -6
Setup is probably responsible for most auger issues. Glad they are looking after you. I had a Brandt 1390HP that piled up the flighting after very little use and they ignored it and charged me freight on the replacement flighting from Regina. Last time I pay a premium for something that isn't any different than a less expensive brand. My Farm King 1684 is still running good after a half dozen years, neighbor was asking about it said a Westfield is like 20K more for the same auger! The guys at farm king said the coupler between the short 4 ft flighting and the first long set of flighting had a manufacture defect . Once we opened up the square site panel on the gear box assembly you could see the short auger has worn a flat edge from hitting the tube . They also walked me thru all the adjustments that can be done to correct the seed leaking problems and a few other issues . Dealers are in the dark when it comes to augers . It’s a short line which I don’t think they do their research on . They just sell it and wash their hands of the after sale service . I am happy farm king cared to come to the farm and help with the set up and manufacture issues ! |
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