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Post by kevlar on Mar 28, 2024 9:39:49 GMT -6
That’s what I have always said, we are trying to compete with countries that farm with horses and can live off a dollar a day. Realistically we are forced to be uncompetitive.
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Mar 28, 2024 11:59:45 GMT -6
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Post by Oatking on Mar 28, 2024 11:59:45 GMT -6
I get the feeling the government doesn’t want people to invest in gold or silver anymore hence no media attention. The price is quickly mentioned each day to lull us to sleep!
I heard crypto bitcoin made big gains lately !
Who do we have to thank for being uncompetitive …… John Deeres million dollar equipment , . I don’t see fancy equipment in less developed countries. Just something that will get the job done!
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Post by kevlar on Mar 28, 2024 16:21:56 GMT -6
Gold went a little crazy today!
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Post by kenmb on Mar 29, 2024 8:14:03 GMT -6
Definitely an interesting finish to gold yesterday. Yes, Oatking, the whole scam revolves around convincing the peasants that gold and silver are relics and the dollar is what has value. Because if people start agreeing that gold and silver is worthwhile and use it for trade amongst themselves then the dollar scam soon falls apart. Fiat currency is not just about issuing debt and the constant devaluation of the currency, but it most definitely requires no viable alternative be there to compete. Once people loose faith in the currency then we start an interesting path, that is the basis of my post a few weeks ago about whether land will keep being bought regardless of generating a return. If you loose faith in the currency then you don't care about a return (getting more currency back).
So watching land purchases is interesting, but it would be good to know exactly what the buyer is thinking. Perhaps we are seeing people loose faith in the currency. Because those people look to be correct. The other way to look at the stock market may not be to say companies are doing really awesome (they clearly aren't) but rather people are unloading currency for other things. Hyper inflation events is usually seen in stock markets in recent times. And so we may want to consider that aspect when we are told the stock market is awesome. It may in fact be showing something else.
Land, stocks, and precious metals all trending higher. Yet could be argued that none really generate a "return" based on how we would normally pencil out what a return really is based on capitalism and putting capital to work in productive assets. Yet these 3 assets keep going higher. Perhaps it is the currency going lower. And if the majority of people loose faith in the currency then that trend accelerates. Can add bitcoin to the list.
If a country has a weak currency and one has a strong currency, which one has a lower cost of production? Within the country it doesn't matter, it only matters when outside entities are accessing goods within either of those countries. And it is basically what we are experiencing now with grain sales happening between China and Russia.
It does matter how a currency is controlled. It can't be left to J Powell to manage the $us, and what's his name to manage the $can, nor that other guy to manage the Euro. If left to individuals or seperate entities to control their own currency then we would soon have massive imbalances. Gold use to keep the playing field level. When that was removed, something else was done to keep the playing field level. And that was a centrally controlled world fiat currency system. All done via the BIS. That also is not talked about but when you pay attention to how currency valuation really matters between countries then you will understand why this is reality.
I suspect we are seeing more of a multi Polar world and grain sales may be indicating that. Gold is still a universal unit of wealth around the world. While western world has been told it is worthless I suspect the people in charge really know its value, as do people outside the western world.
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Post by SWMan on Mar 29, 2024 8:54:40 GMT -6
So watching land purchases is interesting, but it would be good to know exactly what the buyer is thinking. It would be interesting for sure. Unless a guy has cash to sink into the land then it involves debt and allowing the bank to have their grub hooks all over your other assets. The way banks are acting these days does not instill a lot of confidence that they are stable in any way. Even getting a LOC is very onerous and should make a guy nervous. What's the point in "owning" a bunch of land if the banking system collapses and all your assets get dragged in and lost... Makes me wonder if there is any other way to transact in fiat and do business without putting your fiat into the banking system?
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Post by Oatking on Mar 29, 2024 10:33:12 GMT -6
I sure would like to see the silver price bump up more !
Even more quiet in the trade is copper !
I don’t think there is enough gold on earth to support paper money anymore . It’s hard to believe the United States banned you from owning gold in the past . Maybe that type of system kept capitalism in check ! If you say you own gold or silver now a days , most people won’t know what that is or think your a dinosaur ! There lies the problem !
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Post by kenmb on Mar 31, 2024 8:27:27 GMT -6
Lots of things on my mind, no answers because I don't know what the guys pulling the strings will do.
Yes, as SWMan says, we need to be careful of banks. It happened in the 1980s, it also happened to home owners in 2008. Banks got "in trouble". Create money out of thin air and have legal right to take real assets and they get in "trouble". No they don't. At least not the banks that are in charge of the scam. So we need to be wary of banks and another manufactured crisis. If you can't pay your debt when called then you may have an issue. Remember bank bail-in laws just invented and implemented about 10 years ago? Stuff like that is a concern. Banks also get to keep playing in the casino with your savings (and also your debt obligations), that is not how a sound financial system is built but our system is not designed to be stable.
We start thinking of counter party risk then. You make a deal with another party when you take on debt, buy a bond/gic, hold stocks, trade futures. Land has its own counter party in the way taxes can be levied and you have ultimately no say. And of course government can do land grabs and also wealth redistribution - while unlikely, it still exists as a risk. Gold and silver is one of the few things you can own without having a agreement or trust with someone else. Yes, government can try and confiscate but I suppose the response is how much was actually taken by the government back in 1935 and how much got lost. So there is a case for metals. As for the Mad Max scenario which peoplelike to counter with, there have been a few - the fall of Rome, any regional war, WW1 and WW2, those kinds of events would be the end of structured life if you lived in the epicenter, did possession of tangible wealth loose its value and become worthless in regards to food and shelter or did something like gold still hold some value when faced with total destruction. I don't think of a Mad Max world, our world is already changing greatly and we still plug along. The major war of our time is being fought right now, it isn't about borders or putting a flag on a piece of ground - it's about controlling people and resources and that is being done by entities you can't see. And so with this war going on right now we may even have gold and silver being the one thing to actually hold in our "Mad Max" environment.
The $us is backed by "full faith and credit" in the US government. How is that playing out? Who trusts the US government to protect the $us? Probably very few. $1T debt being added every 3 months is your answer. Now add in the interest on that debt and you start getting a picture of the level of currency destruction you are living in. There is a war going on, it may even be "Mad Max" levels in another year, but if the vast majority of the people are too dumbed down to even see it, does that mean it doesn't exist?
Nice thing is the system allows for infinite wealth to be created out of thin air as well as apocalyptic level of destruction by saying there is a banking crisis. So we don't know what the future holds. But I would bet the $us is not going to keep being the symbol of wealth or stability for decades to come. Something will change, the question will be who gets screwed over the hardest when it changes. And the planning centers around minimizing your exposure. Counter party risk centers around "risk". Lots of gains being had right now by putting your wealth in to risk areas, risk pays well. Just have to be careful of the chance that risk actually shows why it is considered such.
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Post by generalchaos on Mar 31, 2024 17:19:54 GMT -6
Speaking of people not knowing the value of precious metals. I watched a Mark Dice video where he offered either a bar of silver or a bar of chocolate to passerbys. Some didn’t want neither and the rest took the chocolate.
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Mar 31, 2024 19:57:17 GMT -6
Still think the precious metals in the Mad Max scenario are blued steel, brass, and lead. Fiat money will be worthless, so will cyber money, as the power grid will be down most of the time until it is totally ruined. My guess is food and water will be the most coveted.
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Post by kenmb on Apr 1, 2024 9:36:08 GMT -6
Seen the Mark Dice video, think he did one with both gold and one with silver.
I think too many people like to use the Mad Max analogy - as in it has to be either normal everyday life or total melt down. I don't see it that way. The Great Reset I beleive is legitimate but it doesn't necessarily mean total implosion of everything. That will be the fear tactic used, and will be the reason to implement cbdc's, but it will be an 11th hour emergency solution where they take your fiat wealth (or all those things that have counter party risk) and say sorry, then issue cbds's in exchange and carry on. The peasants will be poorer, capital will be destroyed but for some reason the ones at the top of the pyramid scheme will be just fine. And I don't think it will be the same all around the world, hard to say on that one though. Clearly the western world is trying to attempt the reset but if there really is a multipolar world developing then I would say there is a 99% chance that PM's will hold value. Because even if the western world tries to reject metals (ie hard assets) as wealth then elsewhere in the world will be people who recognize that hard assets is what gives stability and those places will value PM's which means precious metals in the western world will have value also.
Right now it is perfectly clear that expansion of the money supply is accelerating. The government debt expansion says so. This is inflation in our propaganda driven world. Expand debt is inflation. It is nothing to do with cost of goods or "booming economy" - expand debt devalues the currency and so more currency needed to purchase goods.
Everything hinges around whether or not a multipolar world is happening or if it is just a show. Is Russia really standing up to the $us cartel and the people driving it? Do countries actually get kicked off of SWIFT or do they leave willingly and our propaganda says "no, we cut them off". Is Russia simply part of controlling both sides and being brought out to further expand the Military Industrial Complex to create more infinite growth in a finite world by simply blowing shitt up. Who is in charge of China, would massive western corporations really set up shop in a "communist" country where any given day the government could sieze all their assets (the answer is no). So who controls China, or better yet, was China controlled by a certain group that has lost control now?
What happens with the currency does matter. It explains why land prices keep going up. And should continue to go up, but that is actually bad. Currency devaluation hurts the peasants. Houses went up 300% in 15 years while wages went up maybe 25%. In fact a lot of things went up 50% while wages did the 25% increase. The people creating zero and negative rate policies knew this all along. They were not helping the peasants, just the opposite in fact. But we can't bet on things always increasing. They may pull massive deflation with a "banking crisis". The more I think about it, I would say the people in control want the inflation/hyper inflation agenda which destroys the currency so something "new" is needed. That is how the peasants keep loosing and wealth transfer continues. Government is the the tool that comes after the peasants with capital assets (land, housing etc) via taxation to beat down those who still did ok.
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Post by Oatking on Apr 1, 2024 10:38:15 GMT -6
Do you think farms like Monnette who 350 000 acres actually prevent deflation ? I think the banks are slaves to their debt now ? Wouldn’t they be ? I am impressed how they can attain so many assets since 2015 . I don’t know how they do it , because I know I can produce a unit cheaper ! Bully for them . Point is companies are getting mammoth now and are doing it currently in a high cost environment. Deflation would kill the banking system like the housing burst !
I see they are clearing bush land north of ste rose. I heard guys who farm south of that area say it is garbage land. I know first hand from clearing land in the sprague mb area it can produce decent crops , but it is very costly to do, especially now I don’t think they are buying it for 250 an acre. I heard bush land is up to a thousand . As long as this expansion continues it will drive up our good ground! Wouldn’t this company be struggling from drought as well ?
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Apr 1, 2024 11:52:19 GMT -6
This is very interesting, we need someone like her here!
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Post by kenmb on Apr 2, 2024 8:09:35 GMT -6
One farm operation is definitely not going to prevent deflation, and is most likely the first to be wiped off the map in a scenario where banks have a "crisis". A crisis is where banks have loans on the books for assets that have dropped in value. Yes, it is BS because the banks create "wealth" (ie dollars) out of thin air to lend out, charge for that, and then take assets when there is trouble. And no, the government is not actually that effective at regulation of such things. It is no coincidence that banks have paid something like $42B in fines for outright criminal actions yet continue as usual and no one even looses their job, let alone jail. The same government doing oversight of the banking sector, inflation, economy etc is the same government managing the borders. That should tell you all you need to know about another banking "crisis". It will happen if the banks decide it, not because government suddenly did their oversight.
It is why I say to pay attention to your net worth. That is a banking thing, net worth is variable, your debt is fixed. Trouble hits when your net worth declines due to trouble elsewhere. Sure, it will never happen. Except those guys who bought homes in 2010 for 1/3 the price of 3 years earlier can probably remember what did happen. And the people who no longer owned the homes can tell you what happened.
Notice on the "migrant" thing that government and news completely stopped talking about why people are moving to western countries? The reason used to be war. Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc were all creating these masses of people on the move. But now we are seeing people from South America, Central America, India, and all over coming in as illegal entrants and the government and media doesn't even bother to touch on why.
Our government is intentionally destroying the country via massive immigration. This is the same government in charge of oversight for all things financial. Does not take a brilliant analysis to say the government is not ensuring a stable system.
News this week is inflation is still going on. Yes, debt keeps being plowed into the system via banks, central banks and government so the currency is loosing power. And so the "markets" and "experts" are feeling even less confident about rate cuts. Again, who are the idiots that say rate cuts are needed in a "booming" economy.
Keep an eye on your assets, and that means unsold grain. People don't stop eating for a year once all the Russian grain is bought and Ukraine grain dumped on the world. Other grain is still needed. But it's value should not be set by what grain was 5 years ago, it should be set in dollars based on the currency destruction taking place today.
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Post by kevlar on Apr 2, 2024 16:29:23 GMT -6
Metals are going crazy again today, not sure what’s going on but I think something is about to happen.
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Post by kevlar on Apr 2, 2024 18:38:08 GMT -6
Metals are going crazy again today, not sure what’s going on but I think something is about to happen. I don’t have enough gold to get too excited over but I do have a good healthy stash of 100 oz bars that I am waiting to see a big move. At one point I bought out 100 oz bars at the main branch bank of Nova Scotia and to fill my order they had to give me 10 oz. The reason I say this is because a little farmer like me who can deplete the banks physical reserve that day is really scary! Imagine if everybody was running to the bank to get gold or silver !! Maybe the paper gold doesn’t exist in real life ? Then people might realize the true value of some old time assets ! I think the bad day on the market had more to do with the news , an anticipated interest cut might not happen plus some more up-evil in the Middle East !! A healthy stash of 100 OZ bars isn’t enough to get excited about 😳😳. You aren’t a very excitable man I see!!
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