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Post by kevlar on Jul 18, 2023 21:19:26 GMT -6
We’re starting to get some wild oat issues on our farm. Haven’t checked but pretty sure some resistance is happening. Hasn’t helped that the last 3-4 years have been very difficult for spraying for them, with it either being dry and no wild oats growing until it was too late to spray, or excessively wet leading to flush after flush all summer long. Going to start applying some granular this fall to about a quarter of our land, some will then be going into canola next year, which seems to be working good, but am kicking around the idea of doing some of the worst land to fall rye after canola, does rye control the oats pretty good? Have never grown it before. If we had cattle I’d sow some down for a few years for hay, could maybe swap some acres with guys with cows, would be hard to figure out a fair trade though. Do peas keep wild oats under control? All the peas here seem to look pretty clean, but most everyone’s cereals have some degree of infestation.
Any other suggestions?
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Post by meskie on Jul 18, 2023 22:20:27 GMT -6
Hay kinda works for wild oats but we have broke up land that was in hay for 20+ years and we had to spray for wild oats the first year.
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Post by garyfunk on Jul 18, 2023 22:26:29 GMT -6
Yep, same here. Tillage really gets them going. Axial or Tundra has been controlling them here. Thick competitive crops. Truflex canola will help clean them up too.
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Post by CTS2 on Jul 19, 2023 5:49:21 GMT -6
The resistance you suspect, is to what chemicals?
Over your side do you have Avadex?
Or Topic?
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Post by meskie on Jul 19, 2023 6:44:09 GMT -6
Cutting them for silage if they are really bad works great also. We use axial on most of our barley and if it’s in wheat and they are bad will go with Everest as it has some residual. Liberty canola with high rate centurion seems to get our wild oats better then RR
Lots of guys are using avadex again to get the wild oats back under control.
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Jul 19, 2023 7:57:48 GMT -6
It looks like everyone, us included, has wild oats in the cereals around here, they are really showing up now.
Especially in the outside round for some reason?!?
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Post by kenmb on Jul 19, 2023 8:15:53 GMT -6
Peas are a tough one for wild oats. Viper kills what's there but when dealing with more flushes the nature of peas leave lots of open ground for wild oats to grow so if there is multiple flushes then the wild oats do well in peas. Depending on time of later flushes a preharvest glyphosate on the peas can get the wild oats when still green and before seeds have matured so can still cleanup the seed bank but you are left to seeing how the season plays out to know. I had lots of wild oats in my barley last year as I mentioned then. Put flax and mustard on that ground this year and no wild oats to be seen. Had a bulk bag of Avadex in shed dated 2008 on tag and put that down this spring on my flax, went on a bit light at around 120ac when about 100 ac was label rate and it still worked fine till incrop. I did have alot of wildoats in the rest of the flax though, so much so I did my incrop when flax was around 4" tall where as I like to wait longer but the wild oats were 10" tall and choking out the flax so did the 40ac/case rate of clethodim (centurion) and killed them all - 100% kill in even the worst patches. Did the same in my mustard. You could try old-school and put in non-gmo canola with Edge pre-seed and clethodim in crop. Yeah, I am sure there are guys that think it is impossible to grow canola anymore that isn't RR because weeds are impossible to control. I can't complain about my mustard this year.
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Post by shmiffy on Jul 19, 2023 10:03:11 GMT -6
Fna version of Everest. $14 this year. If bought in nov it was $10acre. Low rate of treflan in the fall ahead of canola and pulses. Nicole Masters has in her book that chemical resistance gets less with regenerative program.
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