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Post by Oatking on Jun 3, 2023 3:29:29 GMT -6
Has any one had problems with there auto shut off gas fill rite nozzles. I am on my third fill rite in two years. I think my pump is alright because when I take off the auto shut off nozzle and put on the old standard hand nozzle everything works fine !
What trouble shooting can I do ?
Thanks for any ideas.
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Post by kevlar on Jun 3, 2023 7:36:43 GMT -6
We have one that has issues in the winter for some reason, and it’s even supposed to be one of the Arctic ones. Works fine in the summer and becomes problematic as it gets colder and usually won’t work at -20. I use it as an excuse to not work in the cold 🤷♂️
Do you have a filter on your pump? I find ours acts up as soon as the filter gets even slightly plugged, have to change it probably twice a year.
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Post by Beerwiser on Jun 3, 2023 11:43:24 GMT -6
Yeah always had problems with them in winter, anyways this might help you out. See this awhile ago, now I know how they work.
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Post by Oatking on Jun 3, 2023 12:08:46 GMT -6
tHANKS , GREAT VIDEO. Based on the small openings I must have a piece of rusted metal blocking the inside. Maybe need a better tank filter .
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Post by northernfarmer on Jun 3, 2023 13:46:49 GMT -6
Are the failing nozzles on a bulk tank or a jockey tank ?. I wonder if contaminants in the fuel can get into the mechanisms and if that is the case then not only fittings down stream from a filter that can rust and contaminate the fuel but the fuel hose itself deteriorating internally and causing pieces of rubber to flow through the nozzle. This is of course is all guessing as I have no idea if the nozzle internals are affected by bits of crap. If you have a piece of equipment that has been fueled a lot from that tank and are planning on changing out the filter anyway, it could prove interesting to cut open that filter ( would have to be the first filter inline on the piece of equipment that would catch the bigger pieces ) and see what is stuck down in the bottoms of the pleated media. Unless a person is flowing fuel into a jerry can or one of those large clear plastic chemical measuring cups and then peering through the fuel or pouring it out and seeing what is left behind in the container, one never catches on to those bits of rubber hose even existing and that the hose is in rough shape internally.
Of course there could be another explanation, off shore shit ( China ) made products with made in USA stickers, seems to be a theme that is catching up to us all and not in a good way.
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Post by Oatking on Jun 3, 2023 15:23:30 GMT -6
Nice to hear from you NF. Yes was thinking the same thing about anything down stream from the pump and of course the made in china bit. Although after seeing that video it reminds me of a carburetor and how those small areas can easily get plugged up.
My fill rite was only two weeks old when it acted up. Its wield because its only my gas tank fill rite nozzle. The diesel tanks must oil the system so its not as corrosive.
I remember years ago I thought leaded gasoline less corrosive and had more lubrication elements in it. Todays gas is pretty dry. Is that a right assumption to say.
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Post by northernfarmer on Jun 3, 2023 16:03:03 GMT -6
I thought perhaps you were speaking of diesel but used the word gas ... uh but it is gasoline your speaking of. How about one swear word used to possibly explain what the issue might be ... "ethanol". Yes indeed, that product does some nasty things to not only steel as per drawing water out of the air and causing rust but it has solvent type properties that will eat some types of rubber, plastic and so forth, even non ferrous metals are affected by it. I had a typical metal storage tank on a stand rust through from it not so long after the switch was made over to ethanol. Of course nozzles are on gas/ethanol fuel pumps at the fuel station that do last so they must be made to handle the ethanol in gasoline, the question is are the fill-rite nozzles happy to have ethanol in them ( is this the red handled nozzle ? ) . I have no idea if I am onto something or not but worth doing some questioning of those nozzles and if you have a perfectly clean large clear plastic cup that I mentioned, try filling it with gas from that nozzle/hose and see what if anything settles to the bottom.
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Post by kenmb on Jun 4, 2023 9:18:06 GMT -6
Good video. I put one on a gravity gas tank last year. Yes, the auto shutoff won't work without a pump to feed pressure but the old nozzle was leaking and I wanted the locking lever feature as a step up from sticking a bolt under the handle to hold it open. Had to drill out the rivets to get the nozzle apart and then figured out how to defeat the auto shutoff and works as I need now. A couple stove bolts to put it back together.
I would think taking yours apart and seeing if you can blowout the passages may get it to work again. If you want to use it without the auto shutoff, I stuck a bolt down the center of the shaft to permanently hold the little balls in the outward position so the fulcrum doesn't disengage.
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