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Post by Oatking on Apr 3, 2023 16:23:42 GMT -6
I saw an article in the western producer that talked about crown land rental rates are increasing by 22 per cent . Interesting point is this is grain production crown land! The government wanted 45%.
I was surprised this type of land even existed in Canada. My question is where is it located and why is it not bought up by private land owners.
In Manitoba all the crown land around my piney farm is trees and rocks. Even lousy pasture land is private.
Maybe a silly question for the Americans ..:… besides Indian reserves and national parks does government owned land exist?
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Post by shmiffy on Apr 3, 2023 17:46:20 GMT -6
Mcdougal bay auctions off the right to lease crown lands. Good land gets pretty high
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Post by meskie on Apr 3, 2023 17:47:22 GMT -6
Still a lot around here. Sask government owns it. They are selling it back to people a little at a time. Guys who are leasing it have first crack at it. The government bought it when nobody else would back in the day. Somebody older then me on here might have more knowledge about it.
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Post by bob123 on Apr 3, 2023 19:45:08 GMT -6
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Post by northernfarmer on Apr 3, 2023 20:32:19 GMT -6
That's an interesting map, it would be nice to have a more detailed map that breaks down the area's that are reservation land, national parks, BLM, and national forest. From looking at that map I believe they have combined all of those and which brings up why people in central and certainly in the eastern states struggle to find any government land to recreate on as its severely limited or non existent when it comes to using off road vehicles or camping. That is why the western third of the mainland USA and also area's in Alaska are so popular as there is such a vast amount of land that can be used to a degree for off roading or the off grid camping on the many forest service roads that gain access to such locations. That is why boon docking with an RV is such a popular thing in the western states as that doesn't exist in the eastern states. Go east and its always pay pay pay to camp at a state park campground or national park campground or private campground, nothing free at all. The east has some off road parks that as far as I know are owned and have to pay to access the trails. What I stated has nothing to do with farm land but instead free access to government land ( there are rules though, can't be in any one spot for more than 14 days I believe if boondocking for example ) . From what I hear the government is trying to take that land away from those that have had free access to it, bit by bit. Someone from the states would be more up on the whole government land picture than I for sure.
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Post by Oatking on Apr 4, 2023 6:30:19 GMT -6
X 2 on the interesting map! I am surprised how much land in western US the feds own especially Nevada. Gold and silver mines? I guess that explains why so many americans go fishing and quadding on our eastern and northing Manitoba parks and crown land.
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Post by kevlar on Apr 5, 2023 17:47:56 GMT -6
There’s some crown land around here but mostly bush and hills, there’s some that could possibly be grain farmed but has been pasture for as long as I can remember so not likely very good land.
I wonder if that map of the US would mostly be mineral rights? Seems like a huge area that’s farmable land.
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Post by northernfarmer on Apr 5, 2023 18:57:09 GMT -6
I don't know about the mineral rights aspect but there is a lot of land out west that is not suitable for agriculture due to either being mountains, rocky, or all out desert land that would never produce or areas that could only if there was a massive amount of irrigation. Some area's I've been through that are natural desert landscapes such as eastern Oregon by Ontario for example, where the farm land ends where the access to water does and if the water was turned off, it would go back to desert. Large areas of California fall into that same category, without water there would be no agriculture. Having said that a state like Texas seems to not have much crown land but yet has massive amounts of semi desert land and so why it takes 100 acres per cow to survive and why those ranches would be massive.
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