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Post by SWMan on Nov 2, 2022 13:58:00 GMT -6
Wondering what thoughts are on spreading urea here in November. Would probably be below freezing steady after spreading(if forecast is to be believed). Good stubble on everything but pea ground, snow also in forecast.
Might spread a part rate or all to make spring easier. I know guys that do super-u and walk away, but I have untreated stuff in the bins.
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Post by iamwill on Nov 2, 2022 14:54:51 GMT -6
I am sure it would work but at the price of fertilizer right now is it worth doing? If urea is $1250 a tonne and you put down 100 lbs actual per acre and loose an extra 10% that costs you $12.33 per acre on losses. Personally I wouldn't chance it but I am in southern alberta so totally different weather to deal with.
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Post by radar on Nov 2, 2022 15:01:11 GMT -6
I d be worried about water sitting on it in the spring ,,don't you lose it if the water runs off?
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Post by kevlar on Nov 2, 2022 17:32:09 GMT -6
Is there not a deadline for applying fall fertilizer? I thought there was a cut off date for that and spreading manure.
I don’t think I would just leave it spread on top, too much chance for it to disappear.
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Post by SWMan on Nov 2, 2022 17:43:24 GMT -6
Probably a deadline, it often gets extended as the weather allows. Once winter hits nobody is gonna spread anyway except for the pig guys who need lagoons empty.
If it isn't soaked in this fall and there is standing water in spring I would think it's gone, definitely a consideration.
And this is $800 urea and now it's $1050 but still pricey. I'm likely gonna wait, just wondered if it works but the weather is the wildcard.
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Post by mountrose on Nov 3, 2022 22:03:43 GMT -6
Lots of spreading just finishing up here in North Central ND.
Seems to be more of it every year. Usually try to get about 30-50% of acres done to help the rush in springtime. Know of a few guys who spread every acre in the fall and have done that for many years just because they have the time and urea is usually cheaper if you buy early august or so for fall application.
Had worried quite a lot in the past about getting too much moisture and leaching it away but had quite a good couple snowstorms in April and lots of spring rain and still had great crops so must not leach away to easily in our loam soils.
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Post by SWMan on Nov 3, 2022 22:49:19 GMT -6
Lots of spreading just finishing up here in North Central ND. Seems to be more of it every year. Usually try to get about 30-50% of acres done to help the rush in springtime. Know of a few guys who spread every acre in the fall and have done that for many years just because they have the time and urea is usually cheaper if you buy early august or so for fall application. Had worried quite a lot in the past about getting too much moisture and leaching it away but had quite a good couple snowstorms in April and lots of spring rain and still had great crops so must not leach away to easily in our loam soils. And that's just bare urea, not treated? Welcome to the forum! |
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Post by mountrose on Nov 4, 2022 6:50:44 GMT -6
Yep, I haven’t heard of anyone using agrotain or other products in the fall. Mostly just in the spring when forecast doesn’t look favorable for moisture.
Very very little Super U used around here, just too expensive.
Been reading these forums for years but for the most part I found the answers I was looking for so didn’t need to post.
Thanks
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Post by SWMan on Nov 4, 2022 19:02:28 GMT -6
These forums only work when people contribute, thanks for doing so.
I think field selection would play a part, I have some land that is prone to standing water in spring and probably something like that isn't a good candidate. Nice flat well drained land makes more sense.
Just finished spreading elemental sulfur on everything so we might be sick of that job now...ha ha
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Post by Beerwiser on Nov 4, 2022 19:17:23 GMT -6
I did see fresh floater tracks on a few quarters around me for one guy with 2-3" of snow on the ground. First time I have seen anyone put down with snow on the ground.
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Post by kevlar on Nov 4, 2022 19:21:11 GMT -6
These forums only work when people contribute, thanks for doing so. I think field selection would play a part, I have some land that is prone to standing water in spring and probably something like that isn't a good candidate. Nice flat well drained land makes more sense. Just finished spreading elemental sulfur on everything so we might be sick of that job now...ha ha Do you still have your own spreader or do you hire it done? And yes nice to see some new members! See lots check in every day, would be nice to hear from some of them as well. |
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Nov 4, 2022 21:13:51 GMT -6
These forums only work when people contribute, thanks for doing so. I think field selection would play a part, I have some land that is prone to standing water in spring and probably something like that isn't a good candidate. Nice flat well drained land makes more sense. Just finished spreading elemental sulfur on everything so we might be sick of that job now...ha ha Just curious what the elemental sulfur product you are spreading is? |
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Post by SWMan on Nov 4, 2022 21:32:48 GMT -6
These forums only work when people contribute, thanks for doing so. I think field selection would play a part, I have some land that is prone to standing water in spring and probably something like that isn't a good candidate. Nice flat well drained land makes more sense. Just finished spreading elemental sulfur on everything so we might be sick of that job now...ha ha Just curious what the elemental sulfur product you are spreading is? Tiger 90 or whatever version it was two years ago when I bought it...ha ha Spread 135# actual S and walk away for 5 years. Just 11-52 in the drill which is nice. Kevlar I sold the floater and got one of those 8 tonne Salford BBI Trooper units. Works pretty slick. |
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Post by victory on Nov 4, 2022 22:04:52 GMT -6
I've heard that having too much sulphur on/in the land can tie up other nutrients. Don't remember which ones. Should check with our agro center again. If guys are putting it down, must not be much truth to that.
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Post by SWMan on Nov 4, 2022 22:21:36 GMT -6
I've heard that having too much sulphur on/in the land can tie up other nutrients. Don't remember which ones. Should check with our agro center again. If guys are putting it down, must not be much truth to that. That's something I haven't heard before, might depend on type of sulfur product and pH of soil, etc. I know some guys put huge rates of elemental down as soil amendment on sline/alkali patches, but that would be something like a thousand pounds per acre or more. Haven't tried that either myself. I do know that I have done over 100# several times now and if there is negative effects I have not noticed it. Sulfur is pretty important and often overlooked. |
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