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Post by bob123 on Sept 21, 2022 21:56:16 GMT -6
I am growing ORE35-42m. I switched from Summit last year and have been very impressed with that oat variety. I like the fact the straw does not stay overly green and the seed is very large and plump. My trick to extra yield is to set the combine to take in the lighter oats. Too many times guys are driven by getting heavy oats. I dont care what the weight is as long as its 38 lbs. The extra bulk in oats adds quite a bit of yield to my bottom line. I know some guys scoff at that idea but its about setting your combine for highest yield. Why throw over the third small oat in the panicle ? I know the millers dont like that oat but my thins come out as 1-2 percent with 35-42m. That variety has the largest size oat kernels I have ever seen. Yield tops over 200 bpa on some of my fields so it will remain as a mainstay variety!! Have you ever tried Camden variety?
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Post by meskie on Sept 21, 2022 22:12:01 GMT -6
Camden got punted from our rotation after not performing as well as arborg for us for a couple of years. Straw always stayed green on the camdens also.
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Post by SWMan on Sept 21, 2022 22:42:24 GMT -6
I grew Camden once, straw would not ripen as meskie said, summit a much better variety. If that one Oatking mentioned is outperforming summit then it's definitely worth a look.
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Post by jaymo on Sept 22, 2022 5:34:01 GMT -6
Has anyone heard anything about Moddus hurting oat yields this year? I have a neighbor that claims where he sprayed Moddus is yielding 50 bushels less than unsprayed areas. Claims that when he sprayed, he turned it off over any hills where he didnt think lodging was a problem and thats how he is seeing the yield difference. I used Moddus too but didnt leave any check strips.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 22, 2022 5:59:51 GMT -6
You bet that is true Jaymo. I was at an oat tour at paterson grain in winnipeg this summer and I asked a question to an oat agronomist and they said there is no advantage with growth regulators based on there research, and he said a reduction in yield is noticed. Even more convincing , one farmer pipped up and said his farm trail showed a decrease in oat yield using a growth regulator. Cant argue with those results. The results were so convincing general mills does not allow growth regulators applied to there specialty oat program.
I wont grow camden based on neighbours results of an increase in rust and green straw. I think most varieties have that green straw but some are worse than others. My Macdon swathers stay black all thru cutting 35-42m.
I cant wait till next year to get going seeding oats again. I think the oat price will have to go up to get the acres. Looks like putin will end his deal providing a safe export path. A very volatile winter a head I think.
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Post by slipclutch on Sept 22, 2022 6:13:57 GMT -6
Anyone do a trial on barley with growth regulators?
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Post by glensts on Sept 22, 2022 6:15:57 GMT -6
Has anyone heard anything about Moddus hurting oat yields this year? I have a neighbor that claims where he sprayed Moddus is yielding 50 bushels less than unsprayed areas. Claims that when he sprayed, he turned it off over any hills where he didnt think lodging was a problem and thats how he is seeing the yield difference. I used Moddus too but didnt leave any check strips. I heard that happened around here last year as well with the oats.
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Post by garyfunk on Sept 22, 2022 7:04:29 GMT -6
For you guys that grow oats. How do you fit them in your rotation What do you grow before and after ? I noticed you're from Kindersley area. There's a reason why there aren't any seed growers within a hundred miles. That Palliser triangle probably isn't a good oat growing region. If there's anybody around you growing oats, find out what variety and what their yield expectations are. We grow Morgan North of North Battleford. Stand exceptional, running 160 to 175 this yr with zero lodging. Took a few bin samples to the elevator and they weigh 44.5 to 46lbs.
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Post by bob123 on Sept 22, 2022 7:08:42 GMT -6
I wont grow camden based on neighbours results of an increase in rust and green straw. I think most varieties have that green straw but some are worse than others. My Macdon swathers stay black all thru cutting 35-42m. I cant wait till next year to get going seeding oats again. I think the oat price will have to go up to get the acres. Looks like putin will end his deal providing a safe export path. A very volatile winter a head I think. Interesting, my main customer did yield trials last year of Camden vs ore last year and the Camden won. About 5 minutes south of aubigny so I think not too far from you. I'd have to check the notes whether it was ore 41 or 42 though. Definitely some rust and green straw though
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Post by SWMan on Sept 22, 2022 7:15:31 GMT -6
Has anyone heard anything about Moddus hurting oat yields this year? I have a neighbor that claims where he sprayed Moddus is yielding 50 bushels less than unsprayed areas. Claims that when he sprayed, he turned it off over any hills where he didnt think lodging was a problem and thats how he is seeing the yield difference. I used Moddus too but didnt leave any check strips. Interesting, my moddus treated wheat underperformed my Manipulator wheat, but it was also a different variety. The strip I left was definitely more lodged and harder to harvest, but we did not take yield. I know Moddus is more fussy on the timing than Manipulator.
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Post by kevlar on Sept 22, 2022 7:41:06 GMT -6
We’ve grown Camden for about three years now, seems to yield alright considering the weather we’ve had, biggest issue I find is getting the bushel weight, have always made milling with them but they just barely make the weight. Tried Souris one year, they were a dog. Still my favourite of all time was Triple Crown, not always the highest yields but consistently good no matter what weather we got. They always looked and weighed good, often in the 47-48 pounds range, a few times I hauled to CanOat they said they were the heaviest oats they had seen that year. I wish I could find some of that seed again but seems like it has been phased out.
For you guys that get big yields, what kind of nutrients are you giving them? We just can’t seem to push the nitrogen or it just goes flat and are lighter, seem to do better the less we give. I’m thinking location could play a big part in yields.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 22, 2022 10:18:34 GMT -6
I am closely watching how AC douglas performs. From what i see , it lodges and stays green. In fact where it lodged it is green like grass now with new tillers growing. I dont want to discredit camden, it appears as top yielder in the MB seed guide. I just am concerned with the green straw problem. We are swathing the last of the 35-42 today. In a week and a half its not ripening much. CUTting it down !
Almost embarrassed to say I only put 70 lbs of N and 35 lb of p to my oats. However the soil test showed 65lb of n from last year so that is likely the cause of the heavy stand. The good yields can only be contributed to timely rains and no field compaction. Effects of Field compaction is the number one reason here on clay land that can cause a major screw up in crop performance. I noticed where the flood water was slow to run off, my crop suffered the most.
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Post by shmiffy on Sept 22, 2022 12:29:12 GMT -6
I noticed you're from Kindersley area. There's a reason why there aren't any seed growers within a hundred miles. That Palliser triangle probably isn't a good oat growing region. If there's anybody around you growing oats, find out what variety and what their yield expectations are. We grow Morgan North of North Battleford. Stand exceptional, running 160 to 175 this yr with zero lodging. Took a few bin samples to the elevator and they weigh 44.5 to 46lbs. [/quote]
100 bushels /acre is what the old guys said their last crop in the sixties was. That’s my goal. Last three years my barley has been over 50lbs and made malt.
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Post by kevlar on Sept 22, 2022 14:33:31 GMT -6
That’s about the same as we put on our oats Oatking, but find even 70 pounds the oats are lighter, so far the best seems to be in the 50-60 pounds range, have tried higher but they just get lighter with no yield gains.
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Post by garyfunk on Sept 22, 2022 15:34:45 GMT -6
100 bushels /acre is what the old guys said their last crop in the sixties was. That’s my goal. Last three years my barley has been over 50lbs and made malt. I think the guys closer to Wilkie grow Orrin or the new one Endure. Those or Morgans might be worth looking into. Not much danger of rust in your area.
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