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Post by shmiffy on Sept 11, 2022 14:24:39 GMT -6
For you guys that grow oats. How do you fit them in your rotation
What do you grow before and after ?
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Post by meskie on Sept 11, 2022 14:31:52 GMT -6
We like to put them on canola stubble. Then go with barley or canola after. We don’t grow much wheat last few years.
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Post by SWMan on Sept 11, 2022 19:33:10 GMT -6
After canola or soybeans, fields are always cleaner after soybeans.
The main consideration for me is if a field is a bit sour and maybe not as suited for wheat, oats will do better on that type of land.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 11, 2022 22:13:20 GMT -6
My Oats yields over the years ,Doesnt seem to make a difference with rotation. This year I went oats on oats on some fields. Last years drought crop yielded around 115 on that land, and this years crop on that land was in the mid 180s. No wild oat problems really, yeah a few but nothing to worry about. You know what , after years of farming on red river gumbo the key thing is seeding with no soil compaction than trying to perfect crop rotation. Zero tillage has helped firm up the land in the spring and lessen soil compaction. Crop rotation is a nice coin phrased word all the agronomists like to talk about. A good crop is made by what you put into it and the way you treat the soil, That my meager 2 cents I think. Of course , we all have seeded when its too wet and the results are ...it is what it is.
I do agree with swman that beans help with limiting wild oat problems and keeping the field clean.
I would be interested on how oats perform on pea land stubble. How much nitrogen would your soil tests say to use on oats. Might depend if you can even seed oats on pea land because of the herbicide you use on peas.
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Post by meskie on Sept 11, 2022 22:19:18 GMT -6
We have seeded oats on pea stubble and they need the same nitrogen as any other stubble. Peas around here don’t seem to leave any extra N in the soil. We test all our fields every year.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 11, 2022 22:27:07 GMT -6
That is interesting meskie how very little nitrogen is generated by your pea crop. Just goes to show how important a soil test is.
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Post by meskie on Sept 12, 2022 7:18:09 GMT -6
We have tried a few different things on the peas and doesn’t seem to matter. Yields aren’t great for us and no nitrogen in the soil so not a lot of benefits to growing them.
Oats and barley grow good for us and we can normally get malt if we want. Lots of people around us are a oat canola rotation this year it worked good as you can get gluten free contracts this spring for around $9 for the oats.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 13, 2022 5:45:32 GMT -6
We have tried a few different things on the peas and doesn’t seem to matter. Yields aren’t great for us and no nitrogen in the soil so not a lot of benefits to growing them. Oats and barley grow good for us and we can normally get malt if we want. Lots of people around us are a oat canola rotation this year it worked good as you can get gluten free contracts this spring for around $9 for the oats. Wow , that IS awesome money. Holy moly if I pulled in 9 bucks with a 185 yield like this year I think I would retire!!!!! That 9 bucks must be by Melfort area. I know general Mills works with a lot of growers up in that neck of the woods. |
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Post by meskie on Sept 13, 2022 7:19:31 GMT -6
We have tried a few different things on the peas and doesn’t seem to matter. Yields aren’t great for us and no nitrogen in the soil so not a lot of benefits to growing them. Oats and barley grow good for us and we can normally get malt if we want. Lots of people around us are a oat canola rotation this year it worked good as you can get gluten free contracts this spring for around $9 for the oats. Wow , that IS awesome money. Holy moly if I pulled in 9 bucks with a 185 yield like this year I think I would retire!!!!! That 9 bucks must be by Melfort area. I know general Mills works with a lot of growers up in that neck of the woods. They are going down to Regina area somewhere can’t remember what company was offering the $9. My dad did some closer to $8 I think it was. I didn’t have any land suitable for the gluten free contract. |
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Post by garyfunk on Sept 13, 2022 7:47:05 GMT -6
Oats after canola, for the first two yrs after hay, or after peas that weren't sprayed with a residual herbicide. I've been wanting to do a barley barley canola canola oats oats rotation where maybe we'd skip a barley or oat yr if warranted. Can't convince the kid though, ha.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 14, 2022 5:34:00 GMT -6
Maybe my idea of consecutive oat crop is not for many to try but when you practice zero till and use a disc drill I find you dont bring up as many wild oats. Land seems to stay cleaner that way.
I still feel economics is the driving factor to crop planting so if the crop price is high for a commodity than crop rotation gets the back seat. Broke the 200 mark yesterday again on a quarter . This quarter was oats last year with a meager yield of 135. The elmers super seven does a great job to spread straw after it is baled.
Only thing I will do different next year is go back to two fungicide apps.
Yesterday, the oats were dry 11.7 but the straw was grass green. It made for a slow day on the combines. The oats were in swath for 3 days but rain was coming so we had no choice.
Today will be a repeat.
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Post by SWMan on Sept 14, 2022 22:00:14 GMT -6
Oatking 200 is awesome, especially for the year. I only ever had one field crack 200 and it was not one that I would call my best field. Some serious downstream grain handling is required once combine(s) get spooled up in a crop like that!
Whatever weird weather we got that took some yield off the wheat crop must not have affected oats as much.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 15, 2022 1:17:08 GMT -6
I cant believe my luck, the top bearing on my elmers cart flew apart with 10 acres of oats in the swath yesterday evening. I am new to these carts so was not sure how to tackle that fix last night.
Neighbor is getting 60 bushel an acre canola. I cant wait to get into my canola fields.
I am the only truck driver using two semis and two tandems during the oat harvest. I cant believe I burnt the soles off my newish sketcher sneakers during the oat run. My feet are killing me!!lol Funny how a good crop can hide the pain we all feel from our aches and pains eh!!!
My neighbour went from three s 790 deeres to two x9 1100s. He uses two elmers grain carts on two quad tracks. Each cart services a combine in oats. I forgot to ask him if his 16 farm king auger can keep up or if he uses two.
We were going pretty slow but that helped me keep up trucking. I got a get another truck driver next year. My old legs wont last much longer with these crops.
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Post by shmiffy on Sept 20, 2022 20:31:10 GMT -6
What variety are you guys liking?
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Post by Oatking on Sept 21, 2022 6:57:14 GMT -6
I am growing ORE35-42m. I switched from Summit last year and have been very impressed with that oat variety. I like the fact the straw does not stay overly green and the seed is very large and plump. My trick to extra yield is to set the combine to take in the lighter oats. Too many times guys are driven by getting heavy oats. I dont care what the weight is as long as its 38 lbs. The extra bulk in oats adds quite a bit of yield to my bottom line. I know some guys scoff at that idea but its about setting your combine for highest yield. Why throw over the third small oat in the panicle ? I know the millers dont like that oat but my thins come out as 1-2 percent with 35-42m. That variety has the largest size oat kernels I have ever seen.
Yield tops over 200 bpa on some of my fields so it will remain as a mainstay variety!!
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