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Post by northernfarmer on Jun 17, 2022 7:35:05 GMT -6
Something else occurred to me as per end value, a new trailer vs a refurbished one. Lets say you insure your trailer, I wonder what value the insurance company places on a used but repainted trailer vs a new one and what the difference in price for the insurance is. I know with vehicles they only allow so much for that unless its insured as a classic which puts it into a different scheme but normal vehicles with work done on them and they certainly do not allow for a new replacement price. Would be worth talking to your insurance company just to get an idea of what the increase in value would be. Tax wise I am only guessing that a repair could be written off in one year but I don't know if that is true or not vs the usual depreciation on a new unit.
The best new trailer is the one that comes inside of a bullet proof hermetically sealed globe !
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Post by torriem on Jun 17, 2022 8:49:10 GMT -6
I don't see the point in insuring a used trailer, rebuilt or otherwise, for anything more than liability. But I do live in an area with lots of used trailers for sale.
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Post by Oatking on Jun 17, 2022 11:23:37 GMT -6
Sorry Kevlar for the small picture, had trouble with picture size down loading. you can click on it for the full size pic. This picture is from today , almost three years after the rebuild. You can see they added graphics, did the rims , rock guard on the ladder, cat walk and of course the bottom hoppers. They also put a primer inside the hopper and rebuilt the back trailer end by the tail lights. I like having a smaller trailer for getting into tight driveways or for staying stationary on a scale at an elevator. I will keep this one long term and by a tri axil maybe next year. I have elevators within 10 miles of the farm so a tandem trailer still makes sense.
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Post by Oatking on Jun 17, 2022 11:33:16 GMT -6
Maybe another option is check out the auctions . Maybe due to inflation and high fuel some guys may be backing out of trucking. One important place to clean well is where the tarp rolls up on the right side. In the winter salt piles in there and drips down the right side of the trailer. So many trailers are rusted up on the right side. I am maybe a neat freak and like to clean in those hard to get spots. Just something i have noticed on trailers. May not be true but seems that way.
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Post by kevlar on Jun 17, 2022 12:00:08 GMT -6
Nice trailer! The majority of our grain gets hauled roughly a hundred miles one way, some goes to elevators 15-30 miles away, that’s why I’d like to stay with the triaxle. Don’t really want super b’s for various reasons. You must not have much gravel? Ours all start out with at least 5 miles, then some times maybe 30+ miles of gravel to get to the destination. Mind you the pavement around here is getting so bad it’s like gravel.
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Post by Oatking on Jun 17, 2022 19:44:52 GMT -6
Nice trailer! The majority of our grain gets hauled roughly a hundred miles one way, some goes to elevators 15-30 miles away, that’s why I’d like to stay with the triaxle. Don’t really want super b’s for various reasons. You must not have much gravel? Ours all start out with at least 5 miles, then some times maybe 30+ miles of gravel to get to the destination. Mind you the pavement around here is getting so bad it’s like gravel. To be honest , next to no gravel. Mostly clay dirt roads from fields and highways to all elevators. Yes gravel can really do its damage over time. I thought of a super b unit and separating it into two units for harvest work. Is a two truck system cycling two tandem trailers more efficient than one truck with a super b attached. We farmers along the red river are extremely spoiled with all the elevators up and down the 75 highway. I think that is why we are referred to as the VALLEY BOYS. I feel for you guys with the long haul. I am not a big fan of super bs for the extra maintenance and they seem to get stuck easier on ice than a tri axle. A tri axle is my next option.
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Post by meskie on Jun 17, 2022 20:44:43 GMT -6
Two trailers is better then one super B for harvest. Honestly I don’t find any more maintenance on a super B then our tandem. I wouldn’t want to haul with anything but a super B. We haul with the tandem also if we need to get done. We are 30km to two big elevators and one more going up right now.
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Post by northernfarmer on Jun 17, 2022 22:02:38 GMT -6
Oatking, did you have an outline of the slopes on the outside walls both front and rear or was that not showing up as I know if a trailer of that build type and year was around here and had seen some typical winter hauling that it would look in very bad shape. Some of what can help trailers of that style survive better if its done off the start or after a major rebuild is to sheet in the rear and the front so no crap can spray up there to get through the paint and start the rusting behind the paint process. Also there used to be what some manufactures called farmer special trailers and they had no fenders in the rear and nothing up front either to shield rocks from ramming up against the slopes and the connecting seams. Of course if a truck had full fenders that really helps over open tires.
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Post by Oatking on Jun 18, 2022 6:01:38 GMT -6
No out line showing rust was evident along the slopes. I bought the trailer in 2015 from a retire farmer who also had little to no gravel hauling. Most of the rust was in the back and some rust spots at the base of the box where the sheet metal is welded on to the i- beam. Bergs said it was all caught in time to prevent a massive problem or go beyond the decision of a rebuild.
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Post by SWMan on Jun 18, 2022 8:55:20 GMT -6
Buy a Wilson trailer and live happily ever after.
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Post by victory on Jun 18, 2022 9:33:19 GMT -6
I drive for a local customer hauler in the winter time and his rigs see a wash bay on a regular basis. Makes a huge difference on how long the trailers last. Does cost money to wash too of course. The older Wilson trailer gates were not very nice to clean when having to clean out between grain and fertilizer. Didn't seem to have rust problems though.
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Post by kevlar on Jun 28, 2022 19:57:30 GMT -6
Buy a Wilson trailer and live happily ever after. What size trailer do you have? Have come across a couple now, Timpte triaxle that’s 50 feet, and a Wilson triaxle that’s 48 feet. Those seem long to me, mine is supposed to be 45 feet, but have never actually measured where they get that length from. 45 I would say I’d the limit for some of our approaches and intersections. Maybe companies measure them differently?
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Post by meskie on Jun 28, 2022 20:25:04 GMT -6
Guys around here with Wilson tri’s have 42’ trailers. One guy with a 3 hopper is 45’ I think.
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Post by northernfarmer on Jun 28, 2022 21:38:16 GMT -6
I haven't looked up the specs on a Lode King lately but ours which dates back some years is a two hopper aluminum tridem and they call it 45 feet and that is what it measures from the very front of the trailer ahead of the king pin to the very back at the tail lights. The top of the trailer front to back would be less of course and I am only assuming other manufacturers measure the longest portion of their trailers. The advantage of a longer trailer is trying to get enough weight on the tridem trailer axle group without overloading the tandem axles of the truck when loading light products. I am only guessing that its easier to load further back on these three hopper trailers for the same given length then it is on the two hopper we have and of course optioned height walls are going to go into that equation as well.
Just beware if looking at any older used aluminum trailers that came from the states, some are only 8 feet wide rather then the now standard 8 1/2 feet for Canada and I know in Alberta they don't allow full weight on the narrow trailers and would not make for a happy buyer to find that out after the fact.
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Post by SWMan on Jun 28, 2022 23:58:20 GMT -6
Buy a Wilson trailer and live happily ever after. What size trailer do you have? Have come across a couple now, Timpte triaxle that’s 50 feet, and a Wilson triaxle that’s 48 feet. Those seem long to me, mine is supposed to be 45 feet, but have never actually measured where they get that length from. 45 I would say I’d the limit for some of our approaches and intersections. Maybe companies measure them differently? 45'. I would not go longer, not necessary unless you are into the US.
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