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Post by serffarmer on Apr 11, 2022 18:02:57 GMT -6
Not sure if I’m in the right spot here but I’ll go anyway. Trying to plan some bin yard expansion and hoping some of u can give me a bit of advice on how much space to leave between bin rows. Have a row of bins running east west along a driveway and looking to start another row running the same direction to the north. Will be stripping and gravelling the complete space between the two rows. Unloading into swing augers with super b’s. Existing row is small bins mostly 1805 and smaller. The new row will be most likely 3609 flats. For guys that have a similar style bin yard how much space do u need to have between them?
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Post by kevlar on Apr 11, 2022 18:17:06 GMT -6
Would it work better to run them right along behind the existing row of bins? This would allow a leg/ drag system in the future. Then if you expand again, then space them out and start the row to the north. We currently have all our bins in a long row north/south. Our plan is to run the next row right behind them. This will hopefully allow us to tie them all into one system and feed the dryer right from each bin without having to auger into trucks and moving it.
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Post by torriem on Apr 11, 2022 18:23:37 GMT -6
We just put in a new row of 10,000 bu hopper bins and we used a spacing of about 100' between them and the existing, facing row. That works out for us. We use a 90' auger and we can reach the top of the bins and maneuver alright. Certainly easy for trucks to come through. If I did it again I'd probably make that 120' to have a bit more room to maneuver the auger.
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Post by serffarmer on Apr 11, 2022 18:28:20 GMT -6
Would it work better to run them right along behind the existing row of bins? This would allow a leg/ drag system in the future. Then if you expand again, then space them out and start the row to the north. We currently have all our bins in a long row north/south. Our plan is to run the next row right behind them. This will hopefully allow us to tie them all into one system and feed the dryer right from each bin without having to auger into trucks and moving it. There’s a creek on the south side of existing bin row so can’t go that route but I like your idea for future planning.
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Post by serffarmer on Apr 11, 2022 18:30:04 GMT -6
Torriem do you have room to have a swing auger set up on one side and a truck loading auger on other row and load without moving swing auger?
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Post by meskie on Apr 11, 2022 19:09:16 GMT -6
We have about 180-200’ between our rows of bins and wouldn’t want much less. Lots of room to turn around and get past the auger and such. Also works good to spray the yard with the sprayer when we clean out the tank.
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Post by megrizzly on Apr 11, 2022 22:11:19 GMT -6
2x swing auger length is acceptable 2.5x swing auger length is ideal
One downside of long bin rows parallel to each other is snow removal in high snowfall regions. Need lots of area at each end for the snow.
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Post by SWMan on Apr 11, 2022 23:05:49 GMT -6
Some good points already made on snow removal and I would add gravelling the area can add up, being able to spray the area is nice. I have about 160' between rows here, less at the scale. I didn't want to remove the existing trees and since we angle the augers/conveyors it works okay. I wouldn't want any less though.
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Post by Oatking on Apr 12, 2022 6:33:57 GMT -6
Nice yard lay out swman, I agree with the snow removal problems. If the wind is going the wrong way it can be tough blowing snow or if you blow snow one way the snow load on the snow blower may be too much for it to handle. If you push snow , the big piles you get just make snow banks even bigger and will blow in worse the next time.
Have the bin unloads angled at 45 degrees or close to that so they dont stick out into drive way saves some room.
I am faced with this problem where smaller bins will have to be scraped soon to conserve yard space. 30 years ago I never thought a 4000 bushel hopper bin would be a bin I would have to scrap. Now a days guys are flattening 5000 bushel or bigger to put up a 60 000 bu bin. My problem is my yard is built up on a pad and I don't have the luxury of building where ever I want unless I dig a new pond and raise the yard 7 feet to stay above flood level. Last year I was quoted 70 000 just to build a small pad , never mind bins, gravel and etc. That is why I will get rid of the smaller bins. Tough year to buy bins with the 35-40% increase in price. Of course I will try selling the bins but times are changing and know when my time is done farming my farm yard will be a liability to sell and the new owner may decide to push it down to farm the land so spending money on a pad doesnt make sense!
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Post by meskie on Apr 12, 2022 10:33:52 GMT -6
I gabbed a couple pictures of ours today. We have it mostly sloped so the water runs down the middle and we can still drive trucks to load grain out in the spring.
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Post by serffarmer on Apr 13, 2022 13:05:39 GMT -6
Thanks for the info and pics guys that’s a great help! Really wish I had more room here also as the yard cannot be expanded in size due to topography.
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Post by torriem on Apr 17, 2022 9:04:13 GMT -6
Torriem do you have room to have a swing auger set up on one side and a truck loading auger on other row and load without moving swing auger? I just saw this one, sorry. No we definitely don't have enough room to load and unload like that! More space would definitely be better.
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