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Post by SWMan on Feb 17, 2022 13:42:28 GMT -6
Had a chem rep stop by today, as we were talking about plans for this year he mentioned of the farmers he has spoken with the crops he is hearing more acres for are: Oats, barley, soybeans and peas. Said last year many had a small chunk of flax planned but this year has not spoken with anyone who is planning flax until we spoke.
Personally I am not changing much, seven different crops and acres similar to last year. Little bit of corn after a couple years off. What are you guys hearing?
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2022 Plans
Feb 17, 2022 15:24:14 GMT -6
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Post by meskie on Feb 17, 2022 15:24:14 GMT -6
Pretty much the same around here. Sounds like a bit more wheat and less barley this year.
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Post by SWMan on Feb 18, 2022 0:04:11 GMT -6
Just realized that there was already a thread on this, this one can be deleted.
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Post by Oatking on Feb 18, 2022 9:08:10 GMT -6
No worries swman, Quite a few of neighbours have cereal seed in the bin and are waiting to almost the last minute to put the seed in the ground. I think guys are waiting to see what wheat prices do before spring. I think your standard rotation is the best option instead of trying to hit a home run. I think my heavy oat acres this coming year will be a ton of work but I want to play it safe. After seeing last years drought , expensive crops like canola can sure drain your farm account. I hope we all have some enjoyment this year for a change and be proud what we have. How is the winter wheat in Alberta. I heard it was plus 12 now, no snow ,and dry . I tried that crop in the past ,but since my land is so low and flat , when all the snow melts in the spring it forms a lake in the field and it usually drowns out or when its like a lake and than freezes it basically ruins the wheat. What ever survives is crap and the odd year when I had a 80% stand you are left there scratching you head wondering what to do! lol. Most of the time when I decided to keep the crop it got infected with vomi and was glowing pink even after thousands of dollars spent on fungicides.
Swman, or cpt USA do you have better success with winter wheat. In principal I like the idea, just hasnt worked for me!
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2022 Plans
Feb 18, 2022 10:44:41 GMT -6
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Post by cptusa on Feb 18, 2022 10:44:41 GMT -6
My only experience growing wheat was for cover crop. It was good for that and over wintered well but is no competition for cereal rye.
Corn and beans here.
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Post by torriem on Feb 18, 2022 13:45:54 GMT -6
Our winter wheat is looking alright I think. Despite the warm temps, the soil is still cold enough that it's safely asleep. I've heard of other winter crops that start up and grow off and on all winter long, but as far as I can tell, winter wheat does not do that. When it has gotten cold, we've had at least some snow to insulate it, so I'm not too worried about it.
Definitely spring snow is a problem for winter wheat. Occasionally we have low spots drown out when it thaws. But in general it's a great fit for us, especially following peas, beans, lentils, or canola. Wild oats are rarely an issue in it, so we can break up our group 2 herbicide use. Make spring seeding easier, easy harvest, etc. We do typically spray for leaf disease, but that's about it. Have never had fusarium in it. I guess our dry, dry climate has some compensations. About a third of our wheat is winter wheat.
My neighbor does thousands of acres of winter wheat every year, although he cuts it for silage in June, and replants to barley for his feedlot. They often harvest barley quite late because of that, but not that late. I don't imagine the double crop yields on the barley are amazing because of the summer heat, but the total yield of the winter wheat silage plus the barley work out well for him.
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Post by MBRfarms on Feb 18, 2022 17:53:54 GMT -6
10yrs ago on this side of the river winter wheat was our main crop. Back then a friend told me he only grew canola for the stubble to seed winter wheat into. Spring wheat ran 50-60bu while winter wheat would do 70-90bu and feedmills often paid good off the combine as it was cut so early and they wanted new crop grain. Then we had 3 or 4 bad winters/springs in a row and new spring wheat varieties started to yield as much or more and that was basically the end of it. Tried a small piece 3yrs ago as fall conditions were just too perfect and it got destroyed by our spring wheat the following year. Still the odd field put in but it's been a good 5yrs since I've heard of any good yields from the few who still try.
As for 2022 plans, stick to our rotation and focus on the small details to ensure the best possible start. We'll probably lean out the fertility program a bit. We've done split applications of N for a few yrs but will probably shift more to the in crop pass once we know yield potential better. Very thankful for the heavy manure history on our ground. Going back to RR soybeans after a 2yr experiment with IP beans that failed horribly in these dry years. Going to be planting 50% of the beans green into living rye, did a field this year and was very impressed by it. Top yielding field by a good few bushels and far cleaner with 1 less pass of herbicide compared to our other IP beans that got 4 passes and were still overgrown messes. If it performs good again and we start getting into a wetter cycle I'll be very quick to do all the soybeans this way. Won't change too much on canola, stick to the true pod shatter resistant InVigor varieties. Lost a lot of bushels on the Dekalb and Pioneer so called straight cut varieties. Plant late with low population, hope for no frosts and not go crazy on the groceries till I can see what kind of crop it looks like.
Heard of a few guys shifting corn acres to oats next year. Some guys backing off canola acres after getting eaten alive by flea beetles for a few years.
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