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Post by Albertabuck on Dec 18, 2021 13:30:16 GMT -6
Got a text the other day from a ghost from my past. She's desperate to find some hay and or straw within reasonable distance of Viking. I am only asking if anyone knows of anything out of compassion, in no way does this involve me in any way shape or form. Got a bunch of horses and them miniature cattle and sounds like she is running out of hay.
Its her own goddamn fault, she contacted me early in summer, again was desperate for pasture, I turned her down. And at the time told her to make sure she secured a supply of hay for winter. This was early June. I got scoffed at and told how she could find all the hay she needed for $40 a bale...my advice to her was to buy ever damn bale she could, if nothing else she'd probably triple her money if she didn't need it.
Guess this old fart might actually know a thing or two after all because that has long since come to pass lol
But I got told how greedy guys like me are and a few other things, I wished her well....so now you know why I said I had no grass available either....unfortunately one of those who are their own worst enemy. Hard to help someone like that really.
But I said I would see what I could find if anything. Not asking for favors or nothing, just if anyone knows of anything available. Thanks.
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Post by cptusa on Dec 18, 2021 15:16:02 GMT -6
I've got an extra 150 rounds but that's too far to make work.
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Post by Beerwiser on Dec 19, 2021 19:45:37 GMT -6
How much does she need and does she have a processor? Her name isn't Heather or something like that is it?
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Post by Albertabuck on Dec 20, 2021 18:52:49 GMT -6
I think she still got about 50 head or everything and no processor. Sounds like the tractor shit the bed too. I don't why I bother trying to help someone like her, got a text back, got told short of GFM because appearently I just must have more than I need myself....
She's actaully well know down in that area, barrel racing buckle bunny drama queen who got most of what she got being on her back...and no I never took a ride either lol. Kind of a shame really, girl aint dumb, quite capable when she puts her mind to things, but f*ck me talk about vindictive if things don't go her way. An auctioneer buddy gave her my number years ago, figured I might be interested in a cute little thing like her, well she's like bugs on cattle, no matter how many times you treat them, they keep showing up lol
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Post by Beerwiser on Dec 20, 2021 23:00:05 GMT -6
Ok, I won't bother then. The only stuff I can really spare is some 2 year old hay. It was cut late so the alfalfa is on the stemmy side.
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Post by daryl672 on Dec 21, 2021 20:05:49 GMT -6
I have a guy coming for oats tomorrow. Yesterday he put out a call on facebook asking if anyone had any bales for his buffalo, he bought some this fall that ended up being moldy and now he has 7 dead animals. I only have a couple hundred bushels but I saw he was close so I sent him a message letting him know I had some. He jumped on it, he's pretty desperate to get some nutrition into those animals. Good news is it sounds like he found some bales too, he said he was going to be going to get some tomorrow and would meet me at my bins between loads. He's a young guy who is starting out on his own, just bought some land and these animals a couple years ago and this happens. Sounds like he kinda got in over his head though if he didn't realize those bales were that toxic. Pretty sad story.
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Post by SWMan on Dec 21, 2021 23:21:27 GMT -6
How much of a risk is damp/mouldy straw to cows? I bought some oat straw last year and it must have been tough in spots and poorly baled and wrapped, some bales are a bit mouldy in spots. Put two good hay bales in the feeders today and spread one of these oat bales for bedding and wouldn't you know it about a third of them are over munching on the straw! I did get a processor and wondered if that would help by mixing any poor spots in the bales so as to dilute them, haven't got it going yet though.
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Post by Beerwiser on Dec 22, 2021 0:04:22 GMT -6
Honestly I have never had a problem with moldy hay or straw with cattle. I equate it to eating mexican food. A little bit is fine, too much at once and stand back because something is going to blow. I am curious to what happen with the buffalo though. I thought they were tough as nails when it came to feed.
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Post by meskie on Dec 22, 2021 7:31:47 GMT -6
We also have never had problems with mouldy straw and cows free choice eating it. Might be more of a problem if that’s all they had to eat.
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Post by Albertabuck on Dec 22, 2021 10:17:50 GMT -6
I've never heard of cattle running into trouble with moldy feed, as in baled tough ect. Of course too much of anything can lead to issues. I wonder if there wasn't a massive defiecency prob with the fellow and his buffalo, or they were simply being forced to eat nothing but. I can already see there is going to be a lot of wrecks this winter, the way many on social media are going on about making cattle eat bullrushes and such, yea its filler and fiber, but even reed canary is lacking in elmemental minerals and such. Animals with a lesser metabolism are the first to run into issues. I've lost a few over the years that we nefer could figure out what happened, literally evapoarted over a few weeks. 2 out of 3 would die. Then after a couple grand worth of lab tests and more and my f'king vet sat on the results for two years the answer came. I forget which element they were lacking. And the lab stated in the comments section that they suspected the cattle tested were eating to high of diet of natural grasses. Bingo. Just like with moldy stuff, many of my cattle will leave good alfalfa or silage and pig out on that low land hay. And mine aint bullrushes either. Then bulked up on that, even with mineral and salt available, you get the odd cow with a lower rate of metabolism who can't absorb enough from her feed and you got problems. And I can already see where people just dimiss this and I dunno, I know some have little feed but I really wish they wouold listen to those of us who have a lot of experience with that natural stuff.
Much different story with anything that has that pink mold on it, most commonly seen with over wintered crops. I did hear there was issues with some of the wet conditions some saw this fall, where barley all spouted ect in thwe swath and that that pink mold was present. In high enough levels it is toxic. My understanding has always been, if its enough you can actually see it, you need to limit the amount of such feed made available. Forgive me for not remembering the technical name for it. And if I remember correctly, the mold leads them to literally bleeding out internally. Might be more to it, brain is not cooperating at the moment. As for them liking moldy stuff, oh yea, you want to really see it happen, watch what happens when you feed silage with some moldy stuff like from the top or where air leaked in, they will actually go after it, and will root it out from the good. Grab them lumps in their teeth and play with it like a dog with a chew toy.
Only time I even run into issues with mold or dust in feed is with horses. I used to sell a shitload of horsey hay, even haulded into Calgary and Edmonton race tracks. A horse can't handle it at all, their lungs go for hell in a hurry and it can lead to death if nothing is done.
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Post by snapper22 on Dec 22, 2021 15:33:03 GMT -6
I like to keep a stockpile of straw so there is enough year old stuff for feeding. That said, for the dry year or some reason cows are eating this years straw with a vengeance. I made enough slough hay mixed with cattails. Been feeding a mix of greenfeed straw slough hay good hay and grain. My greenfeed didn’t yield well but but bales have lots of grain in them so I’m stretching with straw and slough hay. Still like to feed some barley because they make better use of the straw and if it gets colder it’s easier to increase the barley. I wonder if that guy with the Buffalo didn’t have some moldy clover. Coumarin is a nasty blood thinner.
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