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Post by bigtom209 on Oct 1, 2021 8:56:59 GMT -6
Trying to decide what variety of HRSW to grow next year.
We've been growing AAC Brandon HRSW and it always seems to yield well and good falling numbers and it's really nice looking red wheat, but the protein levels are always mediocre like 11.8% - 13% is pretty typical. I don't think we hardly had any run over 13% and when selling that's always an issue with the buyers they want the higher protein like 13.5+
I tried googling for info on different varieties and which maybe focuses on higher protein levels even if it costs on yields but really didn't find much so thought I'd check on here and get some opinions.
Thanks in advance
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Post by SWMan on Oct 1, 2021 9:14:21 GMT -6
Cheaper to apply more nitrogen for protein than the yield you would give up from growing a lower yielding variety. I maybe should put an expiry date on this post as nitrogen prices scream higher...  |
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Post by Beerwiser on Oct 1, 2021 9:17:45 GMT -6
Welcome bigtom. No one around here grows HRSW so I won't be much help, just curious if proteins came up over last year. Al the wheat coming off here is slightly higher.
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Post by bigtom209 on Oct 1, 2021 9:38:32 GMT -6
Should've stated, we are organic growers so don't have the option to simply spray chemicals. There are some options we could dig into for organic certified fertilizers or try to tweak our rotation schedule to seed HRSW after a nitrogen building year, but was hoping just to find a different variety that would serve our purpose
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Post by bigtom209 on Oct 1, 2021 9:46:08 GMT -6
Welcome bigtom. No one around here grows HRSW so I won't be much help, just curious if proteins came up over last year. Al the wheat coming off here is slightly higher. I'll have to wait until I hear some of the results once we finish off harvest and send out samples. We are still working on harvesting flax, got 6-8 quarters left. We've been hit by the drought too this year, not as bad as some areas but this is the 3rd year in a row with very little rains, every slough in the area is dried right up. Our wheat probably only went 10-20 bu/acre I'd wager, I'm not expecting very good results from the tests. Seeds all look small so test weight will likely be poor, not sure about falling number or protein. Our oats did alright, average was probably 40 bu/acre and the weight was a bit low I think 30-32lbs but our buyer is taking everything we produced by the sounds of it, normal year it would've been rejected due to weight. The flax, it looks good... but won't know how it faired until we get the sample off. My fields I'm guessing will be averaging 7'ish bu/acre two fields did really well and one did crap, some of the in-laws it's probably closer to 3-5 bu/acre |
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Post by hardrockacres on Oct 1, 2021 11:08:33 GMT -6
I have grown Alida the past few years with good results. Pro and yield have both been good...yields are as good or better better than Utmost and Landmark, that I have grown previously. and the Pro is consistently better than either of the other 2.
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Post by daryl672 on Oct 1, 2021 11:49:36 GMT -6
I'm also organic and grow Morris, didn't seed wheat last year but 2 years ago one field was 13.3 pro and the other was 13.6, both summer fallow fields. Haven't checked this year's yet but I have a super B coming Monday for a load, will let you know later next week what it is.
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Post by bigtom209 on Oct 1, 2021 12:41:53 GMT -6
I have grown Alida the past few years with good results. Pro and yield have both been good...yields are as good or better better than Utmost and Landmark, that I have grown previously. and the Pro is consistently better than either of the other 2. Thanks for the info. I read up on Alida and it seems to have alot of good characteristics we like for our area of growing so I dug around and found a certified seed grower who carries Alida only 30 miles from our farm and talked with them for a bit, they said their AAC Brandon usually would result around 12.5% protein and the Alida 13.5%. They also made sure to say no guarantees what so ever, but that's their experience and because they farm basically the same soil type and are having the same results we see with the Brandon, it's very promising. I'm thinking I might do 2-3 quarters next year with the Alida. My brother in law, he'll likely keep his Brandon crop for seed next year, so it'll be a good comparison between us both if we each grow a couple quarters and see who's wheat reigns supreme! |
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Post by bigtom209 on Oct 1, 2021 12:45:30 GMT -6
I'm also organic and grow Morris, didn't seed wheat last year but 2 years ago one field was 13.3 pro and the other was 13.6, both summer fallow fields. Haven't checked this year's yet but I have a super B coming Monday for a load, will let you know later next week what it is. I looked for information and also on the certified seed growers and didn't find much of anything for Morris wheat? Is it an older variety? Protein levels are decent enough, so it's interesting I'd like to read up on it but yeah doesn't seem very common? |
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Post by hardrockacres on Oct 1, 2021 12:58:05 GMT -6
Yes the 1 to 1.3 point spread on the pro it what I had with Alida vs the other 2. This year it is 15 plus...but in a drought thats expected.
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Post by carlos on Oct 1, 2021 16:33:51 GMT -6
Yeah and when protein is high like this year, grain companies arent paying for higher protein levels. If it's over 13.5 that's all your gonna get.
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Post by daryl672 on Oct 1, 2021 20:33:47 GMT -6
I'm also organic and grow Morris, didn't seed wheat last year but 2 years ago one field was 13.3 pro and the other was 13.6, both summer fallow fields. Haven't checked this year's yet but I have a super B coming Monday for a load, will let you know later next week what it is. I looked for information and also on the certified seed growers and didn't find much of anything for Morris wheat? Is it an older variety? Protein levels are decent enough, so it's interesting I'd like to read up on it but yeah doesn't seem very common? I honestly don't know how old a variety it is. I bought seed off my neighbor 3 years ago after seeing how well he was doing with it. Here is what I could find about it in a quick search... provenseed.ca/cereals/cdcvrmorris/ |
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Post by SWMan on Oct 2, 2021 22:38:31 GMT -6
Seed guidePage 32 and 33 might be of use when comparing characteristics of varieties. Disregard the nitrogen comment...ha ha
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