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Post by shmiffy on Sept 10, 2021 6:20:55 GMT -6
Does anyone else find there is lack of pod shatter this year. I grew L345 and L357. My divider shells out half the pods in a two foot strip
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Post by wheatking76 on Sept 10, 2021 21:37:38 GMT -6
friend of mine swathed his i think it was 345 and he said it was shelling out crazy at swathing time so he cut it all then, just figured weaker and more brittle plants in this dry year
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Post by SWMan on Sept 10, 2021 21:53:19 GMT -6
Last year there was some pod drop more than pod shatter, supposedly due to dry conditions. I took a quick look at some of my 82SC and it looked okay, L233P looks good so far. Should get rolling next week in canola, hopefully no big wind coming. I will watch those two varieties and have a experimental Dekalb in a plot too that is a bit later.
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Post by meskie on Sept 10, 2021 23:01:15 GMT -6
233 340 345 255 all had some shelling this year for us. First time we have had 233 shell like this.
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Post by MBRfarms on Sept 12, 2021 21:53:43 GMT -6
Dekalb 82SC and L357P both shelled pretty bad for us even without any big winds, L255P had a little but very minimal from what I can tell. The 255 also stayed green a touch longer and had larger blacker seeds which made for less combine losses. Not sure what to do for varieties next year, 357 was the clear winner all year till it crapped out and shriveled up just before harvest. Probably sticking with mainly 255 with a bit of 357 again.
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Post by jaymo on Sept 13, 2021 21:05:41 GMT -6
What kind of header are you running? We run Macdons with minimal shatter on the divider but we used to run auger heads which seemed to shell out more along the divider.
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Post by meskie on Sept 14, 2021 7:57:02 GMT -6
We use macdon headers as well.
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Post by shmiffy on Sept 14, 2021 19:59:52 GMT -6
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Post by SWMan on Sept 16, 2021 12:31:02 GMT -6
This is a Claas Vario with side knives, way less loss than my macdons. With current canola price side knives make a lot of sense.  |
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Post by SWMan on Sept 20, 2021 23:10:43 GMT -6
Got into some of my 82SC today(had been doing L233P up until now). There is more pod drop happening in this variety, but not a lot of pod shatter as of yet. Different field but it looks like it will yield very close to the L233P nearby in the end. Next field has a split so will get a better comparison. I definitely trust the L233P better if left longer in the field.
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Post by kens on Sept 23, 2021 9:43:22 GMT -6
I did some field scale trial for Dekalb Liberty varieties that got a light hail on. Not sure if I can mention the varieties, but the Dekalb experimental varieties with a newer pod shatter trait was as good as the liberty variety that was in the rest of the field for pod drop and shatter, there was essentially none. The older Dekalb variety had approx 10% pod shatter from the hail and the pioneer 506 that they had in the trail was approximately 20% hail damaged, which looked like it would of been the same as any non pod shatter variety. I did have a field farther away that had a heavy hail and the liberty variety had maybe 15% damage and the pioneer was 100%. The pioneer is not a straight cut variety, perhaps delay swathing a few days, but that's it.   |
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Post by jaymo on Sept 24, 2021 8:45:24 GMT -6
Just wondering what the motivation to grow "SC" varieties that are not "P"? Last I checked the seed is no cheaper then Invigor. I have yet to hear of any of these varieties matching or exceeding P varieties in real world conditions. What am I missing?
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Post by SWMan on Sept 26, 2021 0:41:34 GMT -6
Just wondering what the motivation to grow "SC" varieties that are not "P"? Last I checked the seed is no cheaper then Invigor. I have yet to hear of any of these varieties matching or exceeding P varieties in real world conditions. What am I missing? Because of the smaller seed size of the Dekalb it can be 30% or more cheaper. When Invigor went to selling by seed count it generally made it more expensive than previously. Couple that with programs it makes it competitive if the variety is gonna yield similar, which mine did this year. I'm sure it would have beat L345P which was supposed to be the next big thing and I gather has flopped for the second year in a row. L340PC sounds like it is maybe as good as L233P. Just have to keep trying different stuff because they always take the good varieties away too soon. |
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Post by jaymo on Sept 26, 2021 19:59:22 GMT -6
It's a good thing if some of the so called straight cut varieties are actually becoming competitive with P varieties.
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Post by SWMan on Oct 8, 2021 0:26:56 GMT -6
Yesterday's trial results. 1.75 acre strips cut into standing crop(40' head down middle of a 60' drill pass). All seeded at same plants/acre based off seed weight, Dekalb had smaller seed:
L233P 54.2BPA
82SC 53BPA
83SC 54.4BPA
L233P 53.7BPA
Saw a bit more pod drop on the Dekalb varieties with 82SC being worst, but L233P had some also on more mature areas. Looks like 83SC will hang with the best variety this area has ever seen. Unfortunate that Bayer is going to sell canola by seeds per bag for 2022, there goes the advantage of smaller seed and getting more seeds per bag.
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