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Post by shmiffy on Jan 13, 2021 15:29:51 GMT -6
What are case 4440 sprayers like. I have a John Deere 4830 now. Seems to be lots of a couple year old 4440 with under 1000 hours.
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Post by Beerwiser on Jan 14, 2021 19:47:56 GMT -6
Can not personally comment on the 4440, but I prefer case just due to a quieter cab IMO.
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Post by SWMan on Jan 15, 2021 0:05:12 GMT -6
Case makes a nice sprayer but I wouldn't overlook a Rogator. A RG with aluminum boom will be lighter and have better suspension and just as quiet. Re-circ boom would be a deal-breaker for me now after having one.
I owned a 4430 and it was reliable and easy on fuel. Biggest complaint besides some little stuff was it's poor through ditches at keeping all the wheels on the ground for traction.
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Post by shmiffy on Jan 15, 2021 10:26:07 GMT -6
I will look into that. That recirculating boom really has pluses to it.
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Post by ddf on Jan 15, 2021 11:07:37 GMT -6
I will look into that. That recirculating boom really has pluses to it. You bet it does. Once JD catches up and offers recirc... it will revolutionize spraying.
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Post by Lucas @ Wilger on Jan 15, 2021 11:28:08 GMT -6
If you are looking at new sprayers for 2021 models, I might think there are going to be a fair bit of new releases with recirc as a factory option. Again, that'd be if you were entertaining (or can afford) new. lol
If you are looking for used, might be some retro-fitted 4440s with recirc as well. If you were looking to retrofit the recirc yourself, might be ~$10K option roughly. The rogator recirc is nice, but pretty complicated compared to some of the aftermarket versions. Again, might not be missing anything but for a first time recirc sprayer might have too many bells and whistles for what you'd use it for.
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Post by torriem on Jan 15, 2021 13:09:09 GMT -6
I think you could roll your own recirculating boom for quite a bit cheaper than $10k, provided you already had AIM Command Flex or Pro on the sprayer already. Plumbing is the most involved part. Instead of one feed hose, you have two, and the plumbing is changed so that each section's ends are attached to the two feed hoses. When recirculating, a valve (could be manual) directs one of those lines back to the tank. In normal operation, the valve is changed so that it is fed from the main pump line. That way each section is fed from each end. Section control is now a function of the individual nozzle shutoffs exclusively, although with section switches it still acts like a normal boom. Stealing shamelessly from sprayers101.com: Or a simpler version that leaves solution in the return line (until you recirculate it with water back to the main tank) is here. This is what the pommier booms do on the RG:
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Post by Lucas @ Wilger on Jan 15, 2021 13:48:20 GMT -6
LOL. I think Tom Wolfe would be happy in that regard. Yeah, the $10K would be more if you were heavily replacing your tubes on the sections for the recirc to be cleaner. A lot of ways to cut down the cost if you don't care if it looks pretty. I do like the first one you picked there. Gives better means of recirculating the boom if you are using heavier amounts of wettables to make sure that sediment in the boom has a bit more chance of moving and dissolving. If you were retrofitting and replacing hoses, I might suggest replacing any hose that is typically bent pretty good as well if you are making a mess of things as well. Lots of cracks to catch residue in those bends. For the $ might be a good way to start it off pretty fresh. Thanks torriem for pulling up those pictures. I pretty much think of passing a link to that sprayers101 article every time someone is considering a recirc sprayer (retrofitting vs. buying one with recirc)
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Post by torriem on Jan 15, 2021 16:26:09 GMT -6
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