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Post by northernfarmer on Jan 3, 2021 23:04:04 GMT -6
One view point of building the Alaska Pipeline as I imagine there may be a few films out there.
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Post by SWMan on Jan 4, 2021 0:34:03 GMT -6
Very cool videos guys!
A few things that struck me about those city videos were the dirty air and how almost everyone was wearing a hat. Of course in that last city video that dude is playing golf with a tie on...lol
No overweight people back then either it seems. Is it that everyone was more active back then or is it something we are eating now?
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Post by slipclutch on Jan 4, 2021 2:46:33 GMT -6
They had no “Mc dicks”. Lol. And other fast foods back then. I think just more active in general.
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Post by kevlar on Jan 4, 2021 8:37:52 GMT -6
I think, without doing any research, that there would be a very close correlation to the rise in popularity of the television and the rise of obesity. The automobile and the automation of everything certainly contributed. Also, I think back then, fat people just died. Go ask any overweight people you know how many different pills they take. Those pills weren't even invented 100 years ago. Also, the price of calories is lower now than it has ever been, but most of those calories now are consumed in processed foods, which have the same addicting qualities as nicotine or even heroine for some people. How many of you here have ever sat and watched the show My 600 Pound Life while munching on a bag of chips?  lol |
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Post by northernfarmer on Apr 1, 2021 20:18:48 GMT -6
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Post by northernfarmer on Apr 1, 2021 20:39:39 GMT -6
Here is an even older video from John Deere and the poster on youtube thinks it might be from 1948 but I don't really know. I had to laugh at how things were handled around the tractor, standing in front of the tire or behind the tractor when it was being started. Indeed its not a modern safety video !.
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Post by torriem on Apr 1, 2021 21:01:44 GMT -6
That's really interesting about the Rollomatic front wheel system. At the time I bet it had a good ride and made for easy steering before the advent of power steering. I know my grandfather had a tractor with one but I'm pretty sure he replaced it with a conventional rocking front axle along with power steering. In fact I think power steering made the Rollomatic obsolete.
There's something I like about the narrators' voices in these older films. Not sure what it is about them that is classic. It's not just all the tobacco smoking back then either. The accents and intonations perhaps? People don't speak that way these days.
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Post by Albertabuck on Apr 1, 2021 21:25:56 GMT -6
Interesting point about the Roll O Matic, that was technology that Deere acquired by buying it. Kind of funny really how many of the "great ideas" that even in more recent times they benefited from, all come to them in the same manner, or by an employee coming to them from another company. Example of that, was the engineer who designed the 8spd powershift, was the one who got fired at Ford for telling them the Select O Speed was not ready for production, Ford didn't want to wait and canned him for it. History has shown, he was right, Ford's first powershift was a disaster.
Not saying anything wrong with any of what Deere did, just how it is. Was the same with other companies too.
Oh and the Roll O Matic was available right up to the end of tricycle front ends with the New Generation, actually was a few Sound Idea ones with it too.
As for operating the clutch from the ground, they even show that in the operators manuals. The AR I can do it, the 830 I can't reach. Would I recommend it to most people, nope lol.
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Post by northernfarmer on Apr 2, 2021 6:23:19 GMT -6
1940s JOHN DEERE TRACTOR & FARM EQUIPMENT SOIL CONSERVATION FILM 45484
Its actually mostly about rejuvenating cattle pastures and in so doing the equipment used back then to work land and seed, and how they handled the "bulk" fertilizer and seed. So its not really a blatant John Deere commercial but JD equipment is being used.
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Post by northernfarmer on Apr 2, 2021 9:19:55 GMT -6
Career in Trucking - Semi-Trucks of the 1950's
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Post by kenmb on Apr 2, 2021 9:28:13 GMT -6
Have John Deere D, AR and 70 here. Last time I rode the D I was about 8, the AR and 70 I spent time on. More the 70 with harrow and rock picking. The AR has a crack in the head so doubt the engine is good anymore and the 70 locked up the transmission in some fashion, probably bent shift fork. Ran fine but between farting around with the pony motor all the time, the starter drive and a bad tire, it got parked in the pasture with the rest. I didn't mind the hand clutch for those few years when first driving a tractor as it was all I knew. Massey 44 was the other one I would need to drive for front end loader stuff. Manual steering, a wore out front end and FEL made that one a challenge as I couldnt turn the wheels if not moving. Seen a few threads on New Ag Talk last few weeks about turbine engines. Experimental IH tractor and this Ford semi were two. Interesting how much technology ramped up from the first internal combustion engine to Ford playing with a turbine in 1925. And here we are still with a reciprocating engine and poppit valves as they main components. Yet we know for a fact other ideas exist and are functional, like the rotary valve head posted in other thread here. My only experience with a turbine is seeing one on a generator set. Sasktel Regina head office has one on a roof top. Around 1000kw generator so 1500ish hp turbine. Fairly compact unit, remember being able to look it over but don't remember hearing it run. I suspect I would remember that. Don't remember why they used a turbine. Maybe size and weight factored in since it was added later as backup power requirements increased. www.thedrive.com/news/40024/watch-this-unseen-4k-footage-of-fords-big-red-turbine-truck-from-the-1960s |
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Post by northernfarmer on Apr 2, 2021 10:45:42 GMT -6
Unfortunately we never had any older JD tractors in that vintage and the couple of first JD tractors dad had such as a 4010 and 4520, he bought/used/sold them for something else. I assume there are farmers or collectors that are always on the hunt for tractors of the vintage you have Ken and there would be estate sales that come along where it all goes up for sale as no one in the family has a use for museum pieces. Although this may fit better in the other thread on buying equipment, way back before I think it was the early 1970's I was to understand that there was no recaptured depreciation so flipping equipment made great tax sense as it could be bought and used for just a few years and use a portion of the depreciation and then turn around and sell it for a good dollar well above the depreciated value on paper and buy another tractor etc and do it all over again. They closed that loophole and I know dad was sure upset about being screwed over by the government as I am sure all farmers were.
I just started watching the video on the Ford turbine truck and as the video starts they are showing a ford car and the narrator states that "People everywhere enjoy more freedom of movement today then ever before" and more is said beyond that on the same theme. Ironically today the film would start out by saying that people today have far less freedom then ever before and we are in the decline as more freedoms are taken from us as our countries are on the verge of collapse. How things have changed in the last 55 years.
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Post by nvw on Apr 2, 2021 11:37:05 GMT -6
Have John Deere D, AR and 70 here. Last time I rode the D I was about 8, the AR and 70 I spent time on. More the 70 with harrow and rock picking. The AR has a crack in the head so doubt the engine is good anymore and the 70 locked up the transmission in some fashion, probably bent shift fork. Ran fine but between farting around with the pony motor all the time, the starter drive and a bad tire, it got parked in the pasture with the rest. I didn't mind the hand clutch for those few years when first driving a tractor as it was all I knew. Massey 44 was the other one I would need to drive for front end loader stuff. Manual steering, a wore out front end and FEL made that one a challenge as I couldnt turn the wheels if not moving. Seen a few threads on New Ag Talk last few weeks about turbine engines. Experimental IH tractor and this Ford semi were two. Interesting how much technology ramped up from the first internal combustion engine to Ford playing with a turbine in 1925. And here we are still with a reciprocating engine and poppit valves as they main components. Yet we know for a fact other ideas exist and are functional, like the rotary valve head posted in other thread here. My only experience with a turbine is seeing one on a generator set. Sasktel Regina head office has one on a roof top. Around 1000kw generator so 1500ish hp turbine. Fairly compact unit, remember being able to look it over but don't remember hearing it run. I suspect I would remember that. Don't remember why they used a turbine. Maybe size and weight factored in since it was added later as backup power requirements increased. www.thedrive.com/news/40024/watch-this-unseen-4k-footage-of-fords-big-red-turbine-truck-from-the-1960sIf you are handy Ken this will repair that cracked head, I've watched some of their videos and what they can do with this is amazing. It's much stronger than the old drilling and plugs. www.locknstitch.com/index.html |
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Post by kenmb on Apr 2, 2021 11:43:10 GMT -6
I think sometimes of finding a buyer for those JD's, but just last fall I was mulling over dragging the 70 into the shed for a project. There are electric starter conversion kits available and I could probably sort out the tranny issue. The downside is I wouldn't have much use for it but if I ever get around to putting up another much needed storage shed, then I may just do some work on that 70 and keep it inside after that.
I will tell you what really struck me the most about the Ford video since you touch on it NF. I think of all the hope, future, potential seen by that generation. It is reflected everywhere in the 60 and 70s. So much progress and development. In the video it is the kids that triggers it for me. It's why I post it - turbine technology from the 20s put into a vehicle in the 60s. So much experimentation and future prospects shown to the people. Now days the most exciting thing is another electric vehicle, something that has existed for a 100 years but we are supposed to be awed by this latest one. Sure, it is interesting to see the new ones, but definitely does nothing to conjure up dreams of the future. In fact it is just the opposite, like who is the dumbass who thinks we can run the entire country on electric vehicles in the next 10 years without a total rebuild of the electrical infrastructure. Pretty much everything new and promoted as exciting is rightfully seen as "what the fuk are you promoting now". I don't think I am cynical either. Like I say, so much development from 1910 to 1970 and the next 50 years gets us what? Cell phones, more comfortable cars and equipment cabs, and 300 channels with nothing on. Sure, there are other things but that era +/- a number of years from 1965ish was quite amazing. You see it in the buildings alone, like the architecture of those city buildings of the 1950s, the wrought iron work, wood work, window styling, etc. Now a business in the city outskirts consists of a metal shed with insulation package. If throwing the big money at it, the building gets floor heat and a brick face on front entrance.
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Post by kenmb on Apr 2, 2021 11:48:39 GMT -6
Maybe someday I will look at that AR NVW. When it sat over winter we would have to pull start it to pump the coolant out of the engine, put dry plugs in and then could fire it up and would be good for the season. My guess is that the coolant is sitting in the engine now for 25 years and the crack is the least of my problems. While it sits in the pasture it is always a possible project. Once it's gone, it gone.
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