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Post by littletimeoperator on Oct 4, 2020 13:32:18 GMT -6
We’re looking to use drainage tile to tie some of our potholes together on our rolly land in south sask. This is is not for subsurface drainage, just moving snowmelt. It is a targeted approach with runs that would be 200-700ft and all water would stay on our land. We want to make one big slough instead of 10 small ones. I have a 20 yard scraper and have moved lots of dirt with it but sometimes ditches have to be cut too deep and then there’s the back slope to contend with.... So I’m looking to hear guys experience using tile drainage on potholes.
What size tile?
What did you use for an inlet? Hicketbasket hype or blind drain?
Any crushed/washed rock at inlet?
What slope?
What did you use to install the tile?
How do you prevent inlet/pipe from freezing up so that when the melt occurs the water starts moving to the drain?
I have access to 4” perforated tile and a track hoe. Some guys in area have been doing it and just running a bit of tile out of the ground at the bottom of the pothole. Want to do it so it works so looking to hear from anybody with experience. Thanks.
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Post by Beerwiser on Oct 4, 2020 13:38:26 GMT -6
I would like to know too, particularly on the slope part as I don't have much to work with. And welcome over littletimeoperator.
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Post by littletimeoperator on Oct 4, 2020 14:45:45 GMT -6
I would like to know too, particularly on the slope part as I don't have much to work with. And welcome over littletimeoperator. I wouldn’t have known about this site had it not been for little tagline at bottom of a post as I was looking through on the ghost town of the old forum. Wondered where everybody went. Feel like I lost the herd but found them at a different watering hole. Glad to be here! |
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Post by kevlar on Oct 4, 2020 14:52:47 GMT -6
Oh perfect! Now I have someone to figure this all out and teach me without it costing me a dime!!!! lol I have been considering doing this to some potholes we have, for the same reasons as you. I prefer a slower drain as opposed to a flash flood, I hate washouts. Think the biggest problem would be the pipe freezing up, especially if you have a wet fall. I was thinking of a sump with rocks covered by a mesh to keep the dirt out, then a length of perforated tile then solid tile the rest of the way. You don't need much slope to run water, and I think a 4 inch pipe would drain a good amount of water.
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Post by skfarmboy on Oct 4, 2020 16:54:11 GMT -6
My Dad had some pothole land drained with tile over 35 years ago. Most of it was 4 inch line which then tied into 6 inch main drain. The drainage hole in each slough were just filled with clean rock 2 to 4 inch in size.
Line was installed with a laser guided plough. I am not sure what grade was used.
You need to make sure that there are no high spots that do no allow all the water to drain out. If the tile is not empty when it freezes it will not thaw in time in the spring to drain the pothole for seeding.
Also any large rains in the summer will overwhelm the tile drainage system and potholes may drown out
Drains are a pain to work around and if you work through them you will pull soil into the drain hole rock and it will eventually plug off.
I have done some surface trenching to replace some of the tile lines and plan on doing more.
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Post by Beerwiser on Oct 4, 2020 20:33:41 GMT -6
Oh perfect! Now I have someone to figure this all out and teach me without it costing me a dime!!!! lol Nope, I am coming over with a white hard hat and clipboard to tell you what you are doing wrong on your dime even if I have no clue what I am doing. Back to real questions. Is there a difference between tile drainage pipe and what you would use for footings as I have a bunch of 4" for footings. Also, How deep? This is going Into hay hopefully, so I don't need it dry right away . Sorry for hijacking the thread . |
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Post by cptusa on Oct 4, 2020 22:18:39 GMT -6
Welcome aboard LTO! Just a suggestion... maybe edit the post out referencing the tagline... not that I care but pretty sure we're watched over here. Don't want to loose the few crumbs we have there.
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Post by meskie on Oct 4, 2020 22:29:16 GMT -6
Welcome aboard LTO! Just a suggestion... maybe edit the post out referencing the tagline... not that I care but pretty sure we're watched over here. Don't want to loose the few crumbs we have there. I fixed it |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 0:19:29 GMT -6
I always wanted to try just trenching with a ditch witch and just filling the trench with 20 mm gravel, create an underground vein. That is basically how springs are made, ancient washouts full of gravel get buried leaving a porous floor that drains for centuries. If you are no-till I cant see the vein plugging from sediment. I have to road to my yard underwater in spring. I can't drain it but putting in a vein when dried out is apparently legal. Has anybody tried this?
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