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Post by SWMan on Sept 20, 2020 21:31:06 GMT -6
Apparently L233P is said to be in short supply for next year. Most of the seed production was for L345PC I think is the new one and it is under-performing. I haven't got my trials off this year yet so don't even know what to book.
Also this same scare tactic has been used almost every year for decades, and I can't remember not getting a variety I wanted for a long time. Maybe this is a local allocation thing???
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Post by torriem on Sept 20, 2020 22:23:32 GMT -6
When we grow seed they don't normally tell us the variety. All I know is the liberty link seed I grew this year is yielding very well. Seed yields are always lower than the expected subsequent yields, so it's hard to say, but this stuff is yielding 58 bu/ac, which is near the top of the pack on our seed yields over the last few decades. I know sometimes they guess wrong at what varieties to produce seed for. I don't see any indication that this is done on purpose.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 21, 2020 5:49:32 GMT -6
I grew l252 and l345pc and although 345pc yield around 5 bushels higher it did want to lay down and others have said high amount of N and it layed flat.. L252 stood tall and still yielded in the low 50s for me. L345pc genetics for blackleg are better I noticed but I am going to look at basf entire line up. I have average over 50 with L252 4 years in a row on my farm so it is tough to let a proven variety go. My neighbour tried a proven seed liberty tolerant variety 680, and was very disappointed, yielded below 40. Seed size will be important to order also. Larger the seed the better vigour and health of the plant I have noticed over the years. With the current canola price I would imagine acres will be up next year putting pressure on the supply on the good varieties.
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Post by jaymo on Sept 21, 2020 7:53:02 GMT -6
While we didn't have a side by side trial between L233P and L345PC, the L233P still yielded higher or similar everywhere else.
345 was obviously taller and leaned more then 233.
Most of the 233 was about waist high and standing perfectly.
I would prefer to have the majority of my acres in 233 again next year.
It's impressive what these varieties can yield when blooming through temperatures in the 30's for weeks.
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Post by meskie on Sept 21, 2020 8:14:06 GMT -6
We have a quarter of 345 right beside a quarter of 233. They look the same all year both standing good. We will see how they yield.
It seems like every year at harvest they are short of seed. I’ve never had a problem getting what I want for canola seed.
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Post by SWMan on Sept 21, 2020 9:39:06 GMT -6
It's all probably a conspiracy by BASF to have everyone growing a variety that doesn't stand well, just so they can sell us Carumba to keep it standing...
Oatking was that proven variety PV660? I'm pretty sure that is the one that I have ion a trial.
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Post by Oatking on Sept 21, 2020 11:55:04 GMT -6
Yes I think you are right SWMan. He chose that variety because he wanted to avoid the sized letter bags BASF have. Retailer claimed it was equal tol 233 but he told me l233 yielded over 10 bushels better. He was very disappointed when he heard my flax was out yielding his canola! I think the heat and dryness we had during july hurt some varieties more than others. Its another example to sometimes stick with what is proven on your own farm.
I will still stick with l252 next year although the 3 series is the future I guess.
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Post by torriem on Sept 21, 2020 12:51:24 GMT -6
L252 is certainly our choice. That gave us the highest yielding canola we've ever seen on our farm a few years ago. It seemed to straight-cut pretty well for us, but it was a heavy crop so shattering in the wind wasn't too much of a concern.
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Post by SWMan on Oct 31, 2020 0:06:35 GMT -6
I was told today that L233P is effectively sold out. If you want some you better be on good terms with a retail that has some booked. I booked mine awhile ago.
Also heard some retails would only sell L233P if you took equal amounts of other varieties.
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Post by Oatking on Oct 31, 2020 12:28:14 GMT -6
I think its because BASF is pushing the 3 series.
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Post by shmiffy on Oct 31, 2020 12:31:07 GMT -6
Heard yesterday I couldn’t book any 233. Priced better than the 3 series by $20/bag
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Post by BJT on Nov 1, 2020 8:18:33 GMT -6
2020 is the year when the BS salesmen pitch’s are actually coming true. If you don’t buy a boat now we will run out, they pretty much did, we only have a few pickup trucks left, true again, snowmobiles same situation beginning now and the canola seed people started saying this a week after that last harvest wind storm, and looks to actually be true this year.
I even had a salesmen tell me, “we have been giving this line to people for years, it might actually be true this year. Lol”
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Post by SWMan on Nov 9, 2020 22:07:32 GMT -6
Well now corn seed is short, at least the good variety I am told. Production issues. Rep said their seed grower in Iowa who wears his underwear outside of his pants and calls himself Captain USA had a really lousy crop, seemed like a believable story so I booked some quickly...  |
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Post by cptusa on Nov 10, 2020 8:27:10 GMT -6
I think you got fed a line of bull, not blaming your seed salesman either because he probably got fed the same line of bull and just relayed it to you. Seed corn production was actually close to or above target yield from everyone I have talked to. That did not get impacted by the derecho like commercial corn did as seed corn is generally shorter to start with then detasseled so you end up with a short of chest high plant that is far less susceptible to winds. The kicker with it is that if the male corn plant is still standing when things get tangled up it's impossible to separate it out therefore the entire field gets condemned. I think less then 5% of the male corn was still in the fields. Don't get me wrong it was a slow go for the pickers and there was a lot of one direction harvesting for them but they got a lot of it. In fact production for Corteva in the "Golden Triangle" (yeah that's what they call this area with three plants) has enough inventory they have cut an entire long time growing area for next year.
And who says I wear underwear at all?!
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Post by carlos on Nov 10, 2020 10:37:35 GMT -6
My fmr said I can get all the 233 I want last week.
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