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Post by SWMan on Jul 24, 2020 21:23:38 GMT -6
Kind of snooping for a newish tractor for next year, has to have PTO and full powershift to run the grain cart. Thoughts on which tractor in the 500-600HP range will be the least trouble?
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Post by meskie on Jul 24, 2020 21:27:51 GMT -6
You would have to define newish? Seems like they are all a gamble. One will run without trouble next guy has nothing but trouble with the same tractor. If the emissions fall off they seem to work a lot better.
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Post by SWMan on Jul 24, 2020 21:46:21 GMT -6
Yeah it would be replacing a 3000 hour tractor, so likely something in the 1000 hour range. Emissions are a concern for sure, I have bad experience with CNH stuff and emissions. AGCO equipment has been basically trouble-free. Would be nice to not have to deal with DEF, so maybe just do the delete right up front. Can't believe what this new stuff costs though.  |
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Post by jcalder on Jul 25, 2020 6:16:43 GMT -6
Curious why you'd replace a 3000 hour tractor, not being a smart alec either, more HP, or just want newer?
Our two "big" tractors are a 9520 and 9530 Deere, the 30 is tuned to 530 hp for pulling our 5200 Salford. I wouldn't give these two tractors up for any of the newer stuff offered these days and one is at around 5500 hrs the other about 4800 hrs.
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Post by SWMan on Jul 25, 2020 9:12:26 GMT -6
Curious why you'd replace a 3000 hour tractor, not being a smart alec either, more HP, or just want newer? Our two "big" tractors are a 9520 and 9530 Deere, the 30 is tuned to 530 hp for pulling our 5200 Salford. I wouldn't give these two tractors up for any of the newer stuff offered these days and one is at around 5500 hrs the other about 4800 hrs. Fair question, I usually like to keep my main tractor fairly low hours. My other tractor is a 965C with even less hours and it is pre-emission, not letting that one go. Other thing I had considered is going older to another pre-emission unit, but then probably same hours and don't know the history on it/etc. In the end might do nothing, definitely the easiest route and not a bad one whatsoever. Just delete it at first sign of emissions problems... On another note how wide is your 5200? Neighbors here have a Salford, the one with all the HD angled discs which I presume is the same model. Man that thing made short work of the corn stubble this spring, much better than my protill. Protill is good small grains unit and works for corn okay, but specifically for corn that Salford is the ticket! Just wondering how they pull, neighbors is at least 40' and they have a big quad-trac on there. |
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Post by farmercook on Jul 25, 2020 9:18:57 GMT -6
Been real happy with our R series Deere’s. Did have a head gasket fail under warranty, and they were too cheap to send head out to get checked for cracks. And sure enough it started eating coolant again, and it was then replaced with a new head.
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Post by jcalder on Jul 25, 2020 10:20:56 GMT -6
Curious why you'd replace a 3000 hour tractor, not being a smart alec either, more HP, or just want newer? Our two "big" tractors are a 9520 and 9530 Deere, the 30 is tuned to 530 hp for pulling our 5200 Salford. I wouldn't give these two tractors up for any of the newer stuff offered these days and one is at around 5500 hrs the other about 4800 hrs. Fair question, I usually like to keep my main tractor fairly low hours. My other tractor is a 965C with even less hours and it is pre-emission, not letting that one go. Other thing I had considered is going older to another pre-emission unit, but then probably same hours and don't know the history on it/etc. In the end might do nothing, definitely the easiest route and not a bad one whatsoever. Just delete it at first sign of emissions problems... On another note how wide is your 5200? Neighbors here have a Salford, the one with all the HD angled discs which I presume is the same model. Man that thing made short work of the corn stubble this spring, much better than my protill. Protill is good small grains unit and works for corn okay, but specifically for corn that Salford is the ticket! Just wondering how they pull, neighbors is at least 40' and they have a big quad-trac on there. Our Salford is 29' wide, it's a heavy beast. Uses all 530hp and could probably use more. We usually go 7 to 8 mph with it.  |
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Post by bob123 on Jul 25, 2020 17:18:25 GMT -6
make sure the delete is done all the way, if its just tricked and still needs to read sensors it can still give problems, need to have it all the way tuned out of the system to gain reliability
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Post by SWMan on Jan 15, 2022 13:07:57 GMT -6
Well my 865E went down the road the other day, ended up running it another year after I started this thread. 3350 hours of zero downtime probably makes it the best tractor I have ever owned. Had a few Husco valves on the hydraulics fail over the years, but that only required switching a couple hoses to a different circuit and get fixed later when not running. PTO switch was kicking out a bit this fall so replaced it and problem solved. There were a few updates done to the machine that I never encountered issues with and that's it! Hopefully the low hour 875E that replaces it is as good.  |
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Post by farmshop on Jan 15, 2022 18:36:57 GMT -6
Seeing the problems that some of the newer tractors have I would be nervous about them. Factor in the crazy prices for newer stuff and it’s a real nightmare
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Post by slipclutch on Jan 15, 2022 18:58:45 GMT -6
It’s simple. Just Don’t buy. Got a quote on a new air drill. Just the drill. No tank Just shy of 500k. A new auger 105 foot16”. There telling me 105k. This is F n nuts!!!
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Post by Oatking on Jan 15, 2022 19:21:52 GMT -6
oh man, what happens if grain prices tank? happens all the time, but I doubt that 500k drill will tank !! Steel prices now will make new equipment bought a few years ago seem like an investment. I wonder if the farmers who flip equipment every year will be able to sustain that again going forward.?
Labor shortages is another problem. Normally it is always a problem but I am a little worried the government will put more rules in place , which means more cost to the farm owner.
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Post by meskie on Jan 15, 2022 19:28:59 GMT -6
Yes prices are crazy but if your trading it seems to wash out in the end. If your not buying new.
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Post by SWMan on Jan 16, 2022 0:48:08 GMT -6
Yes prices are crazy but if your trading it seems to wash out in the end. If your not buying new. Yes I priced new as well but just couldn't make it make sense. Used to buy 10+ new pieces every year, but right now on most larger items used is the best way to go. Sometimes though, you have to buy new to get what you are after, air drill can be one of those items unfortunately. Getting hard to call iron a good investment Oatking, although I have several pieces here I think are worth every penny I spent on them and wouldn't be without! |
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Post by CTS2 on Jan 16, 2022 4:22:11 GMT -6
It’s simple. Just Don’t buy. Got a quote on a new air drill. Just the drill. No tank Just shy of 500k. A new auger 105 foot16”. There telling me 105k. This is F n nuts!!! I can't work it out either. But obviously someone is buying all this ridiculously expensive equipment. |
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