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Post by Oatking on Oct 30, 2023 6:48:21 GMT -6
I wonder how high the uptake of the Covid vaccine will be when it’s not government forced like the last two vaccine roll outs.
It would be interesting to plot deaths from the vaccine after 5-10 years.
I hate to say this now , but thank goodness for the wars going on now . It’s doing a great job distracting people from the cold and flu season (Covid) and possible being forced to get another shot ! God we are so controlled by media it’s not even funny! Media is more powerful than any government !
The last couple years were so frustrating it’s probably healthy for your mind to just move on like Calder is alluding to. That doesn’t mean we forget and learn from the impact the government and media bodies left behind.
Of the two evils we have experienced in the last little while ( Covid plandemic and war) I will take the war situations all day long.
It would be fascinating to know if the Russian army or hamas took the jabs? It makes you go hmmm?
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Post by generalchaos on Oct 30, 2023 6:54:38 GMT -6
There’s a difference between moving on and denying the vax is doing harm. Who made Calder king of the forum? Let them post want they want. If he doesn’t like it, he doesn’t have to read it.
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Post by cptusa on Oct 30, 2023 9:10:09 GMT -6
There’s a difference between moving on and denying the vax is doing harm. Who made Calder king of the forum? Let them post want they want. If he doesn’t like it, he doesn’t have to read it. I totally agree with this, but also Calder has every right to post what he wants too. As long as nothing is being deleted or altered I see no problem. Believe me, I'm not defending Calder in any way, personally I think he is totally wrong but he is entitled to his opinion too, and if he desires to get vaccinated so be it. Either side of this thing falls under not my problem. |
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Post by kevlar on Oct 30, 2023 9:10:11 GMT -6
You can’t just turn a blind eye and carry on like nothing happened. That’s why the world is in the mess it’s in. It’s surprising how many investigations and court cases are going on all over the world concerning covid, how it was handled, and the pharmaceutical companies, but mainstream media isn’t covering any of it.
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Post by Oatking on Oct 30, 2023 10:00:41 GMT -6
Just found out a guy I went to high school with died at 52 years old last night . It was a shock . He was recovering from pneumonia , however was feeling well for days.
The worst thing with the vaccine is it plants seeds of doubt in your mind. It’s hard to make sense when you see more consistent oddities happening than before 2020.
Sure deaths happened before but this time there is a common denominator which could be at stake? That denominator is nothing to ignore!
Humans are the dumbest of the animal kingdom!!!! I don’t know of another animal on earth that will try to poison itself in order to cure itself or fight over silly religions or over useless land!
I guess we are all detective dipshits!!! That’s a beauty j Calder!!!!!
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Post by Bigtalk on Oct 30, 2023 17:12:50 GMT -6
Look's like I've been "cancelled" lol!
I will never bend over in the face of insane tyranny, which, in order to be successful requires the ignorance, the apathy, the compliance, the cowardice and the infighting of the peasants...allowing it to happen again and again and again. Covid is a case in point.
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Post by jcalder on Oct 31, 2023 7:11:04 GMT -6
There’s a difference between moving on and denying the vax is doing harm. Who made Calder king of the forum? Let them post want they want. If he doesn’t like it, he doesn’t have to read it. I totally agree with this, but also Calder has every right to post what he wants too. As long as nothing is being deleted or altered I see no problem. Believe me, I'm not defending Calder in any way, personally I think he is totally wrong but he is entitled to his opinion too, and if he desires to get vaccinated so be it. Either side of this thing falls under not my problem. I have no desire to get vaccinated. I got the two shots a couple years ago and won't be getting any more. I am saying there's extremes on both sides and they are both annoying. Every time a celebrity or athlete dies you get the bigtalks of the world going "SEE!!!! THE VACCINE!" And every time the crazy vaccinated people see someone sneeze they scream "SEE! COVID!" They are equally stupid and annoying and I wish both sides would shut up. |
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Post by jcalder on Oct 31, 2023 7:11:58 GMT -6
There’s a difference between moving on and denying the vax is doing harm. Who made Calder king of the forum? Let them post want they want. If he doesn’t like it, he doesn’t have to read it. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. Goes both ways chief. |
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Post by jcalder on Oct 31, 2023 7:26:56 GMT -6
The worst thing with the vaccine is it plants seeds of doubt in your mind. It’s hard to make sense when you see more consistent oddities happening than before 2020. Is it more consistent? Or are you just paying more attention to it now? My uncle had a stroke in July. So many on this forum would instantly scream "vaccine". Well, dad had a heart attack in 2010 and my grandpa died from a heart attack in 1980 and my great uncle died from heart failure in 1998 and that list goes on and on. Just like occasional athletes have been dropping dead for years too, but there was no vaccine to scream about. Most of the NHL and CFL and MLB (leagues I pay attention to) got vaccinated. I know there's been a couple of incidents in the last couple of years but I'd hardly say these guys are dropping like flies. Personally I think a bunch of you guys just thrive on the drama around this. When it starts to die off then something like Matthew Perry dying happens and it reignites the fire. Like bigtalk saying his posts are somehow "fighting tyranny" (newsflash, they aren't) but in his fevered imagination he's Mel Gibson waging war. And to that, I guess "generalchaos" is right, I should just ignore it. I let my kids pretend they're Spiderman cuz it makes them feel good and this isn't any different. |
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Post by Bigtalk on Oct 31, 2023 20:51:39 GMT -6
Covid shots have a serious adverse reaction rate of 1/800. Past protocol has been to withdraw risky vaccines from the market. The swine flu vaccine in 1976 had a serious adverse reaction rate of 1/100,000 and was withdrawn. Rotovirus vaccine in 1999 had a rate of 1/10,000 and was withdrawn. vigilantnews.com/post/how-pfizer-hid-nearly-80-of-covid-vaccine-trial-deaths-from-regulatorsCovid shots cause myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly in young men. An undisputed fact. If you stress your heart after you've had a covid shot, either through exercise or something else, you are at significantly increased risk of heart failure. Peer reviewed studies have shown that. If your heart is already damaged from drugs or being out of shape and you take a covid shot/s you also significantly increase your risk of heart failure. Hence the significant increase in cardiac arrests in young people since covid jabs were coerced on us. Timeline Graphs show the correlation quite clearly. Where's the argument? ...or does someone just enjoy trolling? |
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Post by jcalder on Nov 2, 2023 7:01:29 GMT -6
Covid shots cause myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly in young men. An undisputed fact. Looks like someone doesn't know what "undisputed" means since that "fact" is disputed all the time. lol Nice youtube videos batman. Keep up the good work. |
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Post by Bigtalk on Nov 2, 2023 17:20:47 GMT -6
It's undisputed: Here's a quote from the NIH itself: "Vaccines have been developed to slow the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but they have led to substantial adverse reactions in various organ systems, such as migraines, fever, exhaustion, injection site reactions, and circulatory problems. Circulatory adverse effects include myocarditis, pericarditis, thrombotic events, arrhythmias, hypertension, acute coronary syndrome, cardiac arrest, and anemia." And again from the NIH: "The occurrence of VIPIT highlights the importance of recognizing and addressing this potential adverse effect in vaccinated individuals. Myocarditis is the most common cardiac event after COVID-19 vaccination. Cardiac events have been documented after administration of Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccines, whereas myocarditis and TTC are relatively less common after immunization with a vector-based or inactivated vaccine. The occurrence of thrombocytopenia after COVID-19 immunization and its potentially serious consequences highlight the need for healthcare providers to be vigilant in recognizing and addressing this potential adverse effect. Prompt intervention can be crucial in preventing severe complications. The occurrence of VIPIT after immunization with the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine is rare, and only a small number of cases have been reported among millions of vaccinated individuals." Quote from the Canadian Health Dept: "Statement from the Council of Chief Medical Officers of Health (CCMOH): Update on COVID-19 Vaccines and the Risk of Myocarditis and Pericarditis As part of the careful monitoring of these vaccines, reports of cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the tissue surrounding the heart) after immunization with mRNA COVID-19 vaccines continue to be reported in Canada and around the world. Cases of myocarditis and/or pericarditis related to vaccines occur more often in adolescents and adults under 30 years of age, more often in males than in females, more often after a second dose of an mRNA vaccine than after a first dose and most occur within seven days of vaccination." Quote from Australian Govt Health Dept: mRNA vaccines • A increased risk of myocarditis and/or pericarditis has been observed in people following vaccination with an mRNA vaccine (i.e. Pfizer or Moderna) compared with unvaccinated people. • Pericarditis and myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccines have been mostly reported in males under 40 years of age, and mostly after the second dose. However, these conditions do occur in both females and males, at any age, and after any dose, including a third or fourth dose. • The recommended interval of 8 weeks between dose one and dose two of an mRNA vaccine may reduce the risk of these conditions, compared with a shorter interval. Investigation and management • Adults who present with chest pain following a COVID-19 vaccine should be investigated for other causes of chest pain (such as acute coronary syndrome), in addition to myocarditis and pericarditis. • Guidance on the assessment of children or adolescents presenting with chest pain following an COVID-19 vaccine is available at www.predict.org.au/mrna-chest-pain-guideline/. • Although most myocarditis cases linked to COVID-19 vaccination have a relatively mild and self-limiting course, fatal cases have been reported, including in females. • Follow up studies show that most cases of myocarditis following vaccination have persistent
changes on cardiac MRI. The clinical significance of these changes, and the long-term
health.gov.au/covid19-vaccines 4 outcomes of myocarditis and/or pericarditis following vaccination generally, are under active
investigation.Future vaccine dose recommendations: • For people who have had confirmed myocarditis and/or pericarditis attributed to a COVID-19 vaccine, further doses should be considered on a case-by-case basis with a cardiologist. Try to keep up old chap. |
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Post by jcalder on Nov 3, 2023 6:32:33 GMT -6
lmao, oh, so now you trust the NIH, Canadian health department and Australian government? I thought the WEF and big pharma had them all under their thumb and everything they said was a lie, which means because they are stating this it should be a clear indication that the vaccines don't cause any of those things. Or are they only facts when they support an argument you're making?
Regardless, no matter what they say doesn't change that people dispute it.
Learn the definition of words old chap. While you're learning what undisputed means you also might want to look up "hypocrite" if you're gonna start posting government information as fact after going on for 3 years about how government is nothing but liars...
For the record I also never claimed to know or care if the shots actually cause these things. Post all the information you want from whatever source you want, I don't give a shit. All I said was that it's disputed.
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Post by kenmb on Nov 4, 2023 13:49:26 GMT -6
The difference is what is broad cast on tv and on the radio on a daily or hourly basis to inform the public and what others facts and science gets passed around in ways that not only does no media visibly distribute it, but no other entity takes action on it.
So which is it:
The covid injection is perfectly safe and everyone right down to 6 years old should be mandated to have it
Or the government is saying it is not as safe as the government says. (that one there is a conundrum)
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Post by iamwill on Nov 4, 2023 18:07:35 GMT -6
Another conundrum is keep getting the covid shot but still end up getting sick (like my mother in law) or stop getting the covid shot, not die, and have to admit the whole thing was so overblown that somebody should get shot. To her credit my mil has stated that she won't be getting anymore shots.
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