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Post by Oatking on Aug 15, 2020 19:12:30 GMT -6
Capt USA I saw the farm pictures and flattened corn crops. 700 miles of destruction in 14 hours . I was wondering how common is a derecho in the Mid West united states and as a farmer in the Red River Valley, I have never heard that term before. Apparently for those unaware to this term it is a long lasting straight line wind reaching winds over 100 miles per hour along a ridge of severe thunderstorms. Is The destruction of grain bins pretty wide spread, because I just saw the pics from Luther. Not a good time of year for bin damage and to have the time to fix them. They reported 10 million acres damaged and Kluis comodities reported a possible 2 bushel per acre decline in U. S corn production as a whole because of this storm. Mondays crop ratings will be interesting. Didn't here too much on rainfall amounts or soybean damage. Any mid west farmers can comment on the storm. If you don't want to comment about it I don't blame you. I also heard two lives were lost from the wind storm. I am skeptical if corn can bounce back up from laying flat on the ground like a mat. Some say yes with severe yield loss. For those affected try and pull thru, and quite honestly seems these days its just one set back after another! In a week or two I would be interested in what the corn does as it tries to regrow? pictures would help. God bless those farmers! |
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Post by cptusa on Aug 15, 2020 21:41:46 GMT -6
They tell us a derecho is a once in a lifetime event. Well, that's what they said July 11, 2011 when one covered the same, only smaller, area. In the epicenter the destruction is phenomenal and unbelievable. The epicenter of the 2011 storm was three miles from me, the epicenter of this one was 8 miles from me. This storm was wider and longer then 2011, it brought more destruction.
Anyone that claims this corn is or will stand back up is an idiot. It will not stand back up after tassel. They are many, many acres that will be zeroed out as unharvestable, many more will have 20-80% greensnap. At best greensnapped ears will shrivel up and produced excessively light weight corn. At worst they will mold and rot. Either way they are not worth picking up. Significant portions of fields are already turning brown a stinking.
This is a market moving event, the market just doesn't know it yet. There is no one that has a grasp on the production impact to corn of this storm, anyone that says they do is flat lying.
Many say farmers will fight to get every bushel we can. As of August 10 we are officially working for crop insurance. Spring price guarantee is $3.88/bushel, cash price is $3 right now. I will guarantee that no farmer is going to mentally and physically struggle through this crop to destroy machines and save insurance companies money.
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Post by jcalder on Aug 16, 2020 6:51:56 GMT -6
That was a beast of a storm. The pictures of the flat corn are very disheartening.
It's amazing what crops can make it through but it's sure devastating when they don't.
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Post by SWMan on Aug 16, 2020 9:07:50 GMT -6
Sounds like what we would call a "plow wind" in these parts. The kind of storm you think it was a tornado, but all the trees and such are all laid over in the same direction.
Cpt what stage was the corn at when this happened?
Hopefully weather settles down for you and some of that corn beats expectations, although what I saw looked pretty nasty.
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Post by snapper22 on Aug 16, 2020 9:34:00 GMT -6
Sounds like what we would call a "plow wind" in these parts. The kind of storm you think it was a tornado, but all the trees and such are all laid over in the same direction. Cpt what stage was the corn at when this happened? Hopefully weather settles down for you and some of that corn beats expectations, although what I saw looked pretty nasty. Have had some nasty gusts here over the years and personally experienced 2 tornados. The sound a tornado makes you’ll never forget like the approach of a gargantuan beast. Hope you guys in the path of Derecho are well insured and can work the mess in the ground so you don’t create anymore stress for yourselves. In my short farming career I’ve had a year where we never combined anything because of drought. I remember guys scraping the ground for 5 bu wheat to get their seed. One friend’s combine injested a pry bar. |
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Post by cptusa on Aug 16, 2020 13:18:41 GMT -6
Corn is not mature, was not black layered yet, not dented. Pics are hazy but brown corn is flat, broke off and will not produce a viable ear. These corn pics are on what I would call the fringe area, probably 80-90 mph winds. Grain bin is part of coop in Gladbrook, it's entirely destroyed but that is what many structures look like. Pic of cattle shades... those ate 8000 lbs each. |
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Post by northernfarmer on Aug 16, 2020 14:33:59 GMT -6
I would imagine there will be mangled pivot irrigation assemblies strewn about all through those affected areas or can some pivot styles handle that drastic a wind ?. Grain bins mangled up like that even if there are good panels on a bin, I wonder what the normal procedure is for replacing them and if in some cases just unbolting the unit from the foundation and using some method to cut them up into manageable sizes and pack the metal away for salvage. What a nightmare that all is, never mind the massive loss of crop and financially ruining farms all in less then a day. I haven't even seen many photos yet to get a grasp on the whole scene, be it houses damaged and sheds, equipment, vehicles, trees etc, basically anything sticking above ground I assume was fair game for that wind.
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Post by cptusa on Aug 16, 2020 16:29:39 GMT -6
The corn pic is a field that looks decent from the road, there's about 25% greensnap. The single pic of a row of bins is Mid Iowa Coop Midway location 5 miles south of my home place, it was brand new in 2012 after the 2011 derecho destroyed their facility 5 miles away in Garwin. A couple of the bins tore anchors out of the concrete. The double pic if bins is one I saw on agtalk, unsure of locations. |
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Post by cptusa on Aug 18, 2020 10:55:03 GMT -6
Some more pics, not mine but not far away. |
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Post by cptusa on Aug 21, 2020 19:49:32 GMT -6
Couple more corn shots. The bigger news is the drought over taking the western 2/3 of the state. Mid 90's all next week might end what did not get blown over. Not  wolf, there is going to be major crop reductions in Iowa this year. Attachments:
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Post by torriem on Aug 21, 2020 21:45:28 GMT -6
Saw this video from Millennial Farmer tonight:
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Post by SWMan on Aug 21, 2020 21:48:08 GMT -6
That your stuff Captain? Crop failures are part of farming, but Iowa seems to have the perception of being a sure-crop area if there is one. Hopefully some of that is salvageable, you'd be surprised what they can make ethanol out of. I just finished hauling out my 45# corn from last year which suffered an early frost. Thought it might be years blending it off but they took it. Hopefully yours had made it far enough along.
Hmmm, I wonder if my Mainero header might be worth something in that area? Doubt people will be following rows...
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Post by cptusa on Aug 21, 2020 22:00:05 GMT -6
The pic without the beer can is mine. Some will be salvageable some will not. It is what it is. I'm not going to fight the down corn, it doesn't pencil. Spring price is higher than current price, market says it doesn't want corn. Immature as well as flat will lead to extremely light test weight and mold/toxins likely unmarketable.
Mechanically unharvestable is a term we're all getting familiar with.
Crop insurance is our friend this year.
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Post by Beerwiser on Aug 22, 2020 1:01:28 GMT -6
Crop insurance is our friend this year. You know I wish I could ban that statement. I hate to see people say that as I have seen at least 6 quarters of canola get sprayed down/worked under for insurance just today. Knowing full well that it barely covers input costs. I can not imagine what such a huge area is going to do for everyone as a whole. Shitty situation is grossly understated. Hopefully everyone pulls through as I know not everyone carries insurance. |
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Post by Oatking on Aug 22, 2020 6:51:50 GMT -6
Beerwiser I agree , in Canada our crop insurance is grossly underfunded and will never cover basic farm expenses . I hate it too when people not in farming say , Oh you have insurance, They just don't understand all the inputs that we put into a crop. Your past history in yields does build up your individual product index but it takes years to do so. All that equipment that went south may be coming back up north! next year!
My farmer friend in Iowa past away a few days ago and had not talked to him in the last week. Can only wonder his thoughts now on this storm.
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