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EcoTea
Feb 23, 2023 8:14:00 GMT -6
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Post by kevlar on Feb 23, 2023 8:14:00 GMT -6
Just got a flyer about EcoTea the other day and they are having a seminar in town on it next week, just wondering if it’s worth my time? Anyone here use it or know anything about it? Says coffee and doughnuts provided, so maybe worth going 🤷♂️
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EcoTea
Feb 23, 2023 9:21:21 GMT -6
Post by OptimallyDismal on Feb 23, 2023 9:21:21 GMT -6
I got that too, I talked to these guys at a Carlisle Liquid Starters supper, they were quite interesting, they have a liquid seed coating and a powder form.
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EcoTea
Feb 23, 2023 11:25:16 GMT -6
Post by Oatking on Feb 23, 2023 11:25:16 GMT -6
Kevlar, its not snAKE OIL. go see the presentation and learn about it. i HAVE WITNESSED ITS EFFECT. It is a product that needs to be continually used to see its maximum effects but is an effective product for getting more carbon into your soil. Its really not a new product. European farmers use it all the time.
This year i am getting it put on with my soybeans. Some early indications it helps with lessoning the effects of salinity. The farmer who introduced it to me showed me his oats with and without it on high saline soil. IT was night and day.
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EcoTea
Feb 23, 2023 13:30:42 GMT -6
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Post by iamwill on Feb 23, 2023 13:30:42 GMT -6
I tried it once on corn a few years ago. It actually yielded marginally less than the untreated. Tried it on two different varieties side by side in the same field. Fairly high pH soil with some gumbo spots and some visible alkaline spots. It definitely did something to the plants though, they were greener and had more second cobs, it just didn't translate into more yield. My impression is if your soil is not lacking anything you likely won't see a yield response but if it is you may. Just like every other product out there that promises to improve your bottom line for only a few dollars per acre, it may work for some but only one way to find out.
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EcoTea
Feb 24, 2023 7:34:28 GMT -6
Post by OptimallyDismal on Feb 24, 2023 7:34:28 GMT -6
If anyone that didn't get the flyer for the info session, it is Mar 2 from 1-3PM at the Ukrainian Hall in Minnedosa 202 5th St NW RSVP by Feb 27 info@overtonee.ca www.eco-tea.ca/I sat at the table with some of these guys and they were quite interesting to talk to, haven't used any of their products, but might consider it, as above, only one way to find out if it works for you. |
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EcoTea
Feb 24, 2023 9:38:32 GMT -6
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Post by shmiffy on Feb 24, 2023 9:38:32 GMT -6
There is getting to be a lot of these. Eco tea has a plot at ag in motion.
Back to your roots
Hi brix
Soil works llc
Annelida Organics Has big worm farm around Edmonton.
These all seem to base off Elain Ingham soil food web.
I’m setting my drill up to put compost extract on at seeding.
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EcoTea
Feb 24, 2023 10:32:25 GMT -6
Post by Oatking on Feb 24, 2023 10:32:25 GMT -6
I hope a couple England or Dutch farmers could weigh in on this product. Also, Humic acid is another product I would like more research or testimonials voiced. I have a pallet of Humic acid in the shop to try out this spring on my oats. I am planning on putting 10lbs an acre of product in my middle tank on my JD 1910 tank. phos in front and oats in the back tank and applying Nh3 on my front openers on my disc drill. I wanted to do this last year but the flood prevented me from taking time to experiment. It was just hammer down time last year.
Only one way to know and try. Humic acid is basically ground up coal , so its a natural carbon source for your soils. I dont know what to say about the claim you can use 15% less fertilizer with eco tea?
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Post by shmiffy on Feb 24, 2023 11:13:59 GMT -6
It was mentioned to me to cut phos application by 30% the first year and if enough biology survives that I should be able to cut it right out the second year?
Looks like the old microscope is going to get used this year.
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EcoTea
Feb 24, 2023 11:17:30 GMT -6
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Post by meskie on Feb 24, 2023 11:17:30 GMT -6
It was mentioned to me to cut phos application by 30% the first year and if enough biology survives that I should be able to cut it right out the second year? Looks like the old microscope is going to get used this year. Might work for a year or two but your gonna use up all the banked phos in your soil at some point. |
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EcoTea
Feb 24, 2023 11:47:35 GMT -6
Post by OptimallyDismal on Feb 24, 2023 11:47:35 GMT -6
I have a guy that is wanting to sell me top-phos (https://www.timacagro.com/our-news/top-phos-technology-wins-big-in-canada)
He is saying it doesn't have salt in it and is more plant available.
I am starting to wonder if a lot of these products I am using are making my saline soil problems worse, it seems the alkali spots are worse than ever, and when you look at it granular fertilizer and glyphosate etc has a lot of salt.
I guess this is another thing to try and see if it works here.
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EcoTea
Feb 24, 2023 12:28:11 GMT -6
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Post by meskie on Feb 24, 2023 12:28:11 GMT -6
That’s why we do VR on our land. We cut back almost all fertilizer on the really bad spots and half rates on the poor spots. Most times when soil testing those areas have excess fertilizer in them as they don’t grow the crop as the productive parts.
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EcoTea
Feb 24, 2023 13:03:47 GMT -6
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Post by shmiffy on Feb 24, 2023 13:03:47 GMT -6
I will be watching closely. Still need good phos levels no matter what.
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EcoTea
Feb 24, 2023 22:18:59 GMT -6
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Post by kevlar on Feb 24, 2023 22:18:59 GMT -6
If anyone that didn't get the flyer for the info session, it is Mar 2 from 1-3PM at the Ukrainian Hall in Minnedosa 202 5th St NW RSVP by Feb 27 info@overtonee.ca www.eco-tea.ca/I sat at the table with some of these guys and they were quite interesting to talk to, haven't used any of their products, but might consider it, as above, only one way to find out if it works for you. If you’re going, maybe I should go, I could buy you a coffee and a doughnut, yes I’m that cheap! lol I can see something like this helping improve soil health and improve uptake, but can’t really see it replacing any of the nutrients. A crop needs what it needs to grow. |
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EcoTea
Feb 24, 2023 23:57:20 GMT -6
Post by seeker on Feb 24, 2023 23:57:20 GMT -6
Has anyone tried Lignijoule from Carlisle? That sparked my interest when I was talking to them at ag days. It increases the photosynthesis is what the brochure says in a nut shell. Seems simple enough to put in at herbicide and fungicide passes and no need for another pass.
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Post by OptimallyDismal on Feb 25, 2023 8:51:58 GMT -6
I did sign up to go, my recollection is that it is a seed treatment but it is more like an inoculant and it puts helpful micro organisms in the soil. I guess the main consideration for me will be cost, not sure what they said about that, my hearing isn't very good at noisy events apparently.
We did the foliar application with the herbicide and fungicide passes last year, it was a blend that we applied 1l/ ac of Alpine K20-S, 1l of G-22, microbolt boron at .5L/ac, and Lignijoule at .5l/ac.
We did tissue tests and found that the wheat was good for nutrients and the canola was deficient on zinc, and low on P, K, B. This was after a 1l pass with the herbicide, I put on 2l with fungicide as I thought the plant surface was a lot more to absorb at that stage. This gave me 3l/ac total.
As far as results go, I don't have yield monitors and it wasn't a great crop, although the wheat did ok for the year, it was water stressed at flag leaf, so it limited itself.
The canola was a poor crop but it was mudded in June 20, and I never expected to harvest it.
The plants looked healthy and I will do this again this year and hopefully have a more normal year.
I am also seriously thinking of getting a drone to take aerial views of the fields and see if there are visible differences, and misses and overlaps should show up as well.
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