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Post by northernfarmer on Nov 7, 2023 17:04:08 GMT -6
Does your 10-46 have a triple belt, wondered because if the engine is much the same and a triple belt vs a double belt system, that double belt may react different to the load of soybeans and be more springy even though it would be a shorter belt. Its hard to have a non spring type stationary roller sitting in the right spot all the way through the travel height of an auger but if your auger tends to be at a more narrow height range while in use then it may not be that bad to rig up a bracket that has adjustability to it and fine tune tune the distance, not touching but relatively close if the belt does start whipping. Also as I had mentioned before, if the top tensioner pulley has no adjustment and the belt pulled a bit tighter makes sense, then try that as well see if it helps with belt whip. Keep in mind that smaller augers never used to have anything at all for a spring loaded pulley tensioner or anti flop guide pulley and a fairly long belt and typically worked fine until the day there was frost on the belts !
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Post by meskie on Nov 7, 2023 17:29:03 GMT -6
Triple belt on our 10x46. Only problem with the old style is if the belts got too tight it would take the gearbox out or the crank bearing on the engine. We had trouble with that on our 10x41 Westfield. The belts liked to slip and needed to be really tight and caused gearbox issues.
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Post by northernfarmer on Nov 7, 2023 17:40:43 GMT -6
Triple belt on our 10x46. Only problem with the old style is if the belts got too tight it would take the gearbox out or the crank bearing on the engine. We had trouble with that on our 10x41 Westfield. The belts liked to slip and needed to be really tight and caused gearbox issues. Not sure if your old auger had three individual belts as I know its said a single "triple" has more grip over three individual belts. Also if it never had a spring loaded tensioner, that can make quite a difference as it doesn't take all that much tension on the dead side of the belt to help the belts grip as its those high torque loads that sags the belt a bit on the dead side and then things go sideways as in a smoking belt with a stalled auger.
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Post by meskie on Nov 7, 2023 17:56:49 GMT -6
Old Westfield had two single belts on the top and two on the bottom with a jack shaft in the middle. Dumb set up. New ones are triple belts. But the backing always seems to come off them. I should try and find a aftermarket belt to see if it would last longer
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Post by northernfarmer on Nov 7, 2023 18:39:05 GMT -6
I wonder if the triple belt is more sensitive to that flex of a back bend with the tensioner pulley or like you say maybe its a brand construction thing.
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Post by meskie on Nov 10, 2023 9:25:04 GMT -6
 that is a picture of where I had my idler and the circle is where it was when I got it. I also moved the tensioner pulley up the frame a bit to put a little more pressure on the belt. |
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Post by Oatking on Nov 10, 2023 11:28:59 GMT -6
Thanks Meskie, I think I will move it up there too. That is what Gary was pointing out earlier .
Yours broke in the same place as mine.
I have a hd 10-46 and a tl 10-39. I use the tl model more often. Both have a 37 hp vanguard.
It’s a neat feature the vanguard shows how many hours on the engine.
I like the narrow transport mover so it fits between hopper legs. My 1041 Westfield didn’t fit so I had to buy the extension kit for it.
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Post by meskie on Nov 10, 2023 11:47:52 GMT -6
We went with the 10x46 so it would reach into our 24’ hoppers without having to drive up on the skids. 10x41 Westfield just reached and the meridian mover stuck out more.
We actually prefer the Westfield style mover over the meridian.
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