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Post by Oatking on Oct 21, 2021 20:57:51 GMT -6
saw a good 9682 at tractor people general! thought those had a n14 so could boost it to 425hp
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Post by meskie on Oct 21, 2021 21:26:56 GMT -6
saw a good 9682 at tractor people general! thought those had a n14 so could boost it to 425hp Can go a bit more then that if you want. Send pump in to a diesel shop and get them to set it up. I prefer to look at machines in their working cloths. It’s easy to spot leaks and tell how the maintenance is of a machine. Also can tell a lot about a machine by the cab before it’s cleaned.
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Post by generalchaos on Oct 21, 2021 21:46:35 GMT -6
saw a good 9682 at tractor people general! thought those had a n14 so could boost it to 425hp It wasn’t there the other day. Must have just got it in. I was interested in the 9680 with 6400 hours. A friend was telling me to watch out for the gear loosening in the transmission on those models. Would that be a concern on a smaller hp tractor like the 9680?
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Post by generalchaos on Oct 21, 2021 21:49:41 GMT -6
saw a good 9682 at tractor people general! thought those had a n14 so could boost it to 425hp Can go a bit more then that if you want. Send pump in to a diesel shop and get them to set it up. I prefer to look at machines in their working cloths. It’s easy to spot leaks and tell how the maintenance is of a machine. Also can tell a lot about a machine by the cab before it’s cleaned. My current tractor is around 200 hp. Can’t upgrade too big. Will tear my equipment apart.
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Post by Oatking on Oct 22, 2021 9:02:17 GMT -6
If that tractor looks as good as the photos , looked pretty clean I would just get the oil changed and check for filings in the transmission. If clean than I would say that is a really good unit. One thing I appreciate about those versatiles is how much less repairs goes into them yearly compared to the newer tract tractors or wheel tractors. I still use my 1990 946 for ditching, tillage and pull a sprayer with it and that tractor is so dependable with 13200 hrs. One thing with the versatiles is I would drain the fuild in the tires and put weight on the frame instead. They are a lighter tractor than a steiger. That is far better for the planetaries and your rims.
Its interesting, that style of versatile tractor is still in production in Russia.
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Post by Albertabuck on Oct 24, 2021 8:30:48 GMT -6
One thing with the versatiles is I would drain the fuild in the tires and put weight on the frame instead. They are a lighter tractor than a steiger. That is far better for the planetaries and your rims. Its interesting, that style of versatile tractor is still in production in Russia. Actually that is wrong. Carrying the weight on the chassis increases the stress on drivetrain components substantially as now they are not only propelling the weight, they have to carry it as well. When the bulk of extra weight is placed in the tires, it is then carried on the ground and all the tractor does is propel it which is by far the most efficient. It also increases tire life, as again, the sidewalls are not flexing from carrying the weight, the weight is concentrated on the tread directly on the ground, where the weight is needed. Cast weight is also multiple times more expensive and bulky. And the only way damage is done to rims with fluid is when tubes are not used.
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Post by BJT on Oct 24, 2021 10:25:18 GMT -6
The tractor with the fluid will hook up and pull way better also.
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Post by northernfarmer on Oct 24, 2021 12:46:36 GMT -6
Extra weight on the tractors frame beyond what it was designed for reminds me of the Versatile 850 we had from new and back in that day the theme was fluid on the inside duals and not sure if it was more convenience in not having all tires filled part way with fluid or the idea of the greater traction closer to the tractor, whatever the case tractor manufactures moved to the theme of equal weight across a tractors axle so all four tires had equal fluid with duals, of course then came along wheel weights more and more and frame weights also ( newer tractors designed for that weight location in mind ). The talk was and probably has not changed is that they claim a tire filled up to the maximum allowable volume of fluid won't flex as well with uneven weighting across the face of the tires surface as one with no fluid and will cause more compaction so they warned of a maximum percentage to fill to ( I think less then 50% but forgot the magic maximum number they suggested and below that ). That was with radials as bias tires don't flex much anyway. Now getting back to that tractor we had, we sold it to a neighbour and he put a blade on the front and that didn't take long to show up the inherent weakness of the cast outer front axle housing stubs as each broke within a couple of years during the winter while pushing snow. Indeed that was a mess when that would happen and had to be repaired on the spot where it failed. An aftermarket company came out with steel axle outer housings for a while due to the need for stronger housings as the failures were that common. Just goes to show when one throws non engineered stresses at a tractor something has the potential to fail.
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Post by Albertabuck on Oct 24, 2021 18:57:16 GMT -6
Yea them original cast axle tubes were a weak point. I don't know if Versy ever went to a steel one with the newer models or not. I know its something I pay attention too, as especially on hard ground my 875 duck walks like a SOB if it starts to spin. Thats the real killer, is that jack hammer effect that results. I remember when dad was looking into the old Kirovets (Belarus 7010) in the mid 70s. We was at the tractor pulls at the Camrose fair. For some reason the Belarus didn't take part but Alberta Machinery the Allis dealer had one there. During the pulls was someone with a Versy, would have been a bigger one that spun out during the pull. I remember seeing the tractor bouncing like crazy then there was two loud clunks and I head the old man say holy shit! It was then I realized something just didn't look right. Right front and rear left tubes had both broke. Can only imagine how much that guy must have been kicking himself in the ass. Forget exactly how they drug it off the track, was behind an 8630 is all I remember. Was that same pull that Ponoka area rig of two Deere 830s hooked together took part. He didn't compete but was more for show. Did good till the end, he spun out and for some reason the clutch didn't release on the front tractor, I remember someone from the sidelines running in and climbing up to do it by hand. Last I saw that tractor it was parked somewhere in Ponoka on display. That be several years now too. Just something I'll mention is if one looks up the Nebraska test for a specific tractor, they will show how the tractor was weighted by the manufacturer per axle or even wheel. You know damm well they did their homework and sent it there set up as best as possible for the test. And part of that test Nebraska actually removes the ballast to measure it. Thats how I was going to ballast the 875. I forget the numbers, think it works out the front insides are like half full and the rears almost full, (remember full is only a couple inches above the rim). Currently nothing up front and the rears are about half. Its light on its feet but actually for some of the work I've done with it slip hasn't been a huge issue. Only time it really is noticeable is with the 28 foot Wilbeck disc, that sucker is heavy and cuts so takes some ponies and gription to make it keep moving. The other benefit to wheel slip is while it does wear tires, it saves stress on driveline components. My advice is never ballast with the intention of getting peak power constantly. You will end up paying for that dearly. Also want to avoid one that has been used that way too.
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Post by cptusa on Nov 1, 2021 9:48:52 GMT -6
Here you go, 2021 9250, clean, one owner, heard he had it about 2-3 weeks. Attachments:
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Post by bigal on Nov 1, 2021 14:09:52 GMT -6
Wow, how does one go about rolling a combine on fairly level ground?
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Post by kevlar on Nov 1, 2021 15:17:12 GMT -6
Surprised nobody has stolen the tires off it yet! Blew a front tire on our little tractor this morning, tire shop had to order one in for it, will be in tomorrow, he said if you have any tires that look a little rough, replace them now, will be very hard pressed to get anything next year. We might be back farming with horses next year!
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Post by cptusa on Nov 1, 2021 15:54:15 GMT -6
Wow, how does one go about rolling a combine on fairly level ground? On highway. Assuming he was meeting traffic and go it over too far and dropped right side off shoulder.
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